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Old 12-12-2004, 03:57 PM   #21
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oh,sorry I did not know you could *fish-less* cycle your tank.I thought Bio-Spira would provide all the bacteria to start the tank.Also if they will put the fish through this death trap why do they allow it.This fish-less cycling is a pretty good idea,and fish should not really be allowed.Why does the law allow it,because it IMO is some sort of animal abuse.And my mollies,I have put them in my established marine tank.
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Old 12-12-2004, 05:51 PM   #22
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I thought Bio-Spira would provide all the bacteria to start the tank.
Shortcuts never yield positive results. Personally I always recommend you take the road of tried and true methods over fast and foolish. They will never lead you astray and teach you one of the most important values in marine keeping... patience

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Also if they will put the fish through this death trap why do they allow it.This fish-less cycling is a pretty good idea,and fish should not really be allowed.Why does the law allow it,because it IMO is some sort of animal abuse.
It comes down to one thing most of the time... $$$. Unfortunately the need to earn usually outweighs the needs of the animals that fall below the top of the food chain. Not that I am by any means affiliated with the likes of PETA nor am I a hypocrate but where we can go that extra step and not needlessly waste life, why not!

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Put the brakes on for a second and relax. Now that you got the tank setup, you need to give it some time to balance itself out before adding fish to it. Your tank may go through a small cycle during this process, even though the rock is cured. Glad to hear you got the Mollies out of there. You are going to need various test kits to track the tanks progress (you probably already have these). I think the marine Bio-Spira was a waste of money since you bought LR, but anyway... What do you have in that tank for water movement? Also, you will need to start adding a cleanup crew once the cycle is complete, then you can start looking at fish.

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How did you manage to get 40 gallons of water home from the LFS?
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Old 12-13-2004, 01:49 AM   #24
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well at the LFS you rent these five-gallon(i think) buckets and bring them home and give it back to them.Also what kind of clean-up crew do you mean.The only thing I have ever had that cleaned up stuff was a very large hermit and a lawnmower blenny.I have never used snails and such.Also I have decided not to use the tank for pipefishes.I would like to have atleast one mandarin goby.But I need to wait atleast six months right.So I need to have some suggestion of fish that will not affect the coeppod and amphipod population.And will not really be aggresive to the goby.Thanks Everybody!!!!!
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Old 12-13-2004, 11:50 AM   #25
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A 40 is not really large enough to produce enough pods to support a Mandarin Goby. Very few Mandarins will accept frozen foods and slowly die of starvation in a home aquarium. An established 75g tank with 100 pounds of LR (or more) makes a nice home for them.
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Old 12-13-2004, 12:09 PM   #26
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Yeah I have the same problem amphibianboy. I have a 37 gallon system that is, unfortunately to small for a mandrin. Try maybe a brightly colored Goby like a watchman goby. those guys are very cute. as far as fish selection goes, look at Clowns, pigmy angels, and small wrasses and firefish.
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Old 12-13-2004, 06:35 PM   #27
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so what kind of tank-set up do you guys suggest.Also I'll edit the title so I can get more posts.
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are you interested in some of the more exotic looing fish? why not a dwarf Zebra Lion and an angler fish? That would look really awsome in a nice reef tank.
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Old 12-13-2004, 08:09 PM   #29
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yeah cool I wanted a dwarf zebra before.They were cool fish as people said but I have never seen one on the market and I do not Intend to get one off the internet.
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You can get your LFS to special order one for you. that way you can check it out before you buy it. If you don't want it, chances are someone else will.
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