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Old 03-17-2011, 10:40 AM   #11
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Yeah, I have No room for 125 tank... I could go 55 - 75... it would be tight, but I could make it work. I guess I may try to get the 41 gallon, if I can get a good deal on it. I know it will fit the limited wall space we have.
I can always upgrade if we move in the future and get something to house a couple of tangs.
I am going back to that store and find out why he told me that!
There are alot of beautiful saltwater fish out there to choose from

I also need to double check on the atlantic blue tang min. Requirements.... I only checked one site & it said 50 gallon.
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:23 AM   #12
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I can tell you why a LFS will tell you something, either they really want to make a sale, they just don't care or don't know and it sounds good at the moment. The best ammo against that is research. If they give you bad advice they hope you don't know it was bad advice and you will come in to buy meds for a sick fish. Come here and ask question, someone will have tried it or know someone that did or researched it to find out it won't work in their tank.

You might want to look up the scientific name of the tang I found this information Saltwater Aquarium Fish for Marine Aquariums: Blue Caribbean Tang You are looking at a 9" max size for a fish so in addition to zoom room they need u-turn space. Two diseases I know tangs have is LLD and prone to ich.
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Old 03-17-2011, 11:27 AM   #13
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In the case of tangs it less about volume really and more about swimming room, the reason they don't do well in 4' tanks is because they spent a lot of time swimming back and forth. If they don't have the recommended 6ft they feel cramped and begin to be stressed which brings on disease like Ich.

Of course volume is a factor because tangs get pretty big, but you get the picture
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Old 03-17-2011, 01:21 PM   #14
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You guys are great

I am really considering making a offer on the 41 gallon Osaka 155.... It is already going & I can do without the tang... If I stay with saltwater & move after we build on our property, I can make room for a large tank then

I know this is kind of a loaded question.... But how may small fish can I keep in the 41 gallon?
In fresh water the ratio is 1" of fish to 1 gallon.... Is there a good rule of thumb for saltwater? I have found various info on that.
I am talking one or two clowns, green damsel, goby, something along that line.

Appreciate the help guys
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I am really surprised & a little ticked off, that the guy (owner) at the LFS (which comes highly recommend) would have told me a hippo could be ok in a 55 gallon, also another worker told me the same thing.
You have to understand that these people are in it for the money. They are trying to make a sale to stay in business. We are here to give advice and experience. I would trust most people here before I would most LFS. I would suggest the yellow eyed Kole tang.
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Old 03-17-2011, 05:17 PM   #16
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There's no good rule of thumb for either, really. 1" per gallon in freshwater is mediocre as well. You just need to research each individual fish. If you're in doubt, ask us.
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:49 PM   #17
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Yes, I do understand they are trying to make money, I guess the reason I was surprised to hear about the Tangs is, that they spent at least 2 hours talking to me... I told them what I was looking at (41 gallon) but may be able to go larger...(& that I was looking used)... They really don't deal with to many tanks anyways). We told them what fish we for sure wanted, to which they told me that certain ones were not reef safe, another one was not compatible with inverts.... etc... I got alot of really good advice from them about all kinds of equipment questions. Also, just about everything else I was told by them, I have also heard on this site & they both match... guess I am just bummed about the tang
Like for example...canister filters, he said no way... I have read that on this site & others. lots of other stuff like that & about all the other fish.

He also knew that I didn't even have a saltwater tank & I do have a freshwater tank... just thinking about starting the tank... I knew alot of the terms & we were able to talk well about things, because I half way knew what I wanted & what questions I needed to ask.

So I wonder why they would spend so much time with us & try to push a sale knowing that I may not even start a tank right away... he also stayed 35 min past close on a Sunday night, just to talk with us... I didn't even realize it was so far past close, they never even let on that we were keeping them late.. I really think he believes that a hippo tang would be OK in 4', however, I know now he is wrong... I guess everyone is entitled... I have certainly made plenty of mistakes

Many thanks to all of you!!
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The stock list you listed earlier sounds just fine to me, if anything you could certainly add more to it.

My only thing is the damsels, they're just mean fish. It only gets worse as they get bigger. I say skip the damsel and get something like a nice flasher wrasse or blenny of some kind
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Thanks!
I have heard that the green damsels are not as bad as the blue & the yellow tails? Also, the 41 gallon I am looking at already has the damsel, so ... kinda stuck with him.
I also heard that the wrasse are kind of mean? I do like the blenny's

The tank also has a clown & a couple of crabs & cleaning snails.. I def. want more fish than that. So if I stay with those type / size fish... do you think I could have 10 - 12 fish / inverts in a 41 gallon?
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From what I have been told 2 tangs in the same tank is a bad idea. Unless they are in a very large tank.
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