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Old 03-31-2013, 10:58 AM   #1
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Question 55 gallon build

So ive decided to turn my 55 gal FW into SW FOWLR.
Ive been reading but when it come right down to it, im not really to sure on the specifics on some things. Here is what i have so far.

* 55 gallon tank currently being used as a FW with one Rokteil Severum named Donnie that i will be giving away. (He and 2 oscars came with the 55 gallon tank when i bought it. all three had horrible fin rot)
* 2 coralife 18" t8 50/50 bulbs in your average hood/light fixtures.
* 1 large Heater 180 watts i do believe.
* 2 Aquaclear 50's
* 1 Tank im unsure of gallons size, I going to be turning into a sump (bought this on a local trading post website under the impression it was a 40 gallon but when i showed up to pick it up it was way smaller then expected but for the $10 price tag i bought it anyway) Demensions are 30" long x 13" wide x 12" tall
* I also picked up a sheet of 1/4" acrylic and 100% silicone for the sump baffles.

Things I know I need.
* Skimmer (clueless on this one because i have not set up the sump to know size constraints)
* Powerheads
* Return Pump
* Overflow box (tempered undrilled tank)
* PVC to plum everything.
* Plus i will be building a stand to fit the sump in.

Here's where i am confused.
* For starters. how to set up the sump. do I need bubble traps. Is the tank big enough for a refugium....if i even need a fuge since i have read the benefits are greatly exaggerated. Ive seen all kinds of layouts and confused on what would actually benefit me.
* I know i have to match the Return pump with the overflow box GPH and tubing. but dont really know how to accommodate for head loss and etc. Also i see a huge price difference on pumps rated at the same GPH.
*I see such a huge span between prices of skimmers also . and not really sure if some like the octopus vs and eshopps or coralife super skimmer are even worth the price difference.

Someone point me in the right direction with some equipment recommendations.
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Old 03-31-2013, 02:22 PM   #2
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Looking at putting a Reef Octopus NWB 110 in the same chamber as the inlet, then a bubble trap going into a refugium and then an overflow into the return pump chamber combining the. Does this sound fine to anyone?
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Old 03-31-2013, 11:22 PM   #3
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Looks like ill be going with an eshopp 300 over flow and mag 5 return pump.
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Old 04-01-2013, 03:20 AM   #4
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So ive decided to turn my 55 gal FW into SW FOWLR.
Ive been reading but when it come right down to it, im not really to sure on the specifics on some things. Here is what i have so far.

* 55 gallon tank currently being used as a FW with one Rokteil Severum named Donnie that i will be giving away. (He and 2 oscars came with the 55 gallon tank when i bought it. all three had horrible fin rot)
* 2 coralife 18" t8 50/50 bulbs in your average hood/light fixtures.
* 1 large Heater 180 watts i do believe.
* 2 Aquaclear 50's
* 1 Tank im unsure of gallons size, I going to be turning into a sump (bought this on a local trading post website under the impression it was a 40 gallon but when i showed up to pick it up it was way smaller then expected but for the $10 price tag i bought it anyway) Demensions are 30" long x 13" wide x 12" tall
* I also picked up a sheet of 1/4" acrylic and 100% silicone for the sump baffles.

Things I know I need.
* Skimmer (clueless on this one because i have not set up the sump to know size constraints)
* Powerheads
* Return Pump
* Overflow box (tempered undrilled tank)
* PVC to plum everything.
* Plus i will be building a stand to fit the sump in.

Here's where i am confused.
* For starters. how to set up the sump. do I need bubble traps. Is the tank big enough for a refugium....if i even need a fuge since i have read the benefits are greatly exaggerated. Ive seen all kinds of layouts and confused on what would actually benefit me.
* I know i have to match the Return pump with the overflow box GPH and tubing. but dont really know how to accommodate for head loss and etc. Also i see a huge price difference on pumps rated at the same GPH.
*I see such a huge span between prices of skimmers also . and not really sure if some like the octopus vs and eshopps or coralife super skimmer are even worth the price difference.

Someone point me in the right direction with some equipment recommendations.
Here's a few things I see. First is your lights. Fine for fish only, no good for corals, but you can upgrade them when you crack and decide on corals.
Sump; if the tank is glass you will eventually have issues with acrylic baffles. Glass silicone doesn't stick to plastic long term and acrylic glue won't adhere to glass. If the sump is glass get glass baffles, it doesn't cost much.
In my sump I only have 2 sections and it works perfect. The main section houses my skimmer, reactor pump then the cheato and finally a stack of rocks. Then a simple over-under baffle to the return section. I've never had an issue with bubbles in my DT. the cheato and rock house the pods I want for my mandarin and capture any bubbles from the skimmer.
Return pump capacity is normally on the packaging box back. A graph for flow vs headhieght. Add 1 ft for every 90 bend in your return plumbing AFTER the pump. Measure from the water level in the return section to the top of youR DT.
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Not really going for corals right now but probably will in the future. Probably going to go with an aquatic lifegaurd 2200. 308 gph at a 6ft head ( 4ft with two 90°) has adjustable flow so I can dial it down a bit.
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Your sump is a 20 long As for a skimmer you wont need one But it will make life easier (think weekly PWC'S) You may want to keep some macro algae in your sump it will help with trates if you do get a cheap clamp on work light with a CFL bulb. Keep the AC50's you can run carbon GFO Phos ban in them Check the Articles under getting started lots of good info.
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Anyone want to recommend a couple powerheads?
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My 55 has 2 hydor 750s and 1 hydor 550. I would start out with 2 750s first. They seem to move the water pretty well.
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Anyone want to recommend a couple powerheads?
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...m?pcatid=23592

I'd probably go with two 750 or maybe even one 1050 and one 750
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Old 04-02-2013, 06:18 AM   #10
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Yesterday I ordered an octopus Nwb 110, the lifeguard 2200 pump and the overflow box. Plus I got the baffles cut and put in the sump. Today ill probably order the powerheads.
The stand will be this weekends project.
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