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Old 04-12-2005, 02:38 PM   #1
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90 gal Damsel tank--filtration needs?

Fairly soon i want to go with a 90 gal Damsel tank, 6 months after its aged i want a flame angel( they have to be the prettiest fish out there) I have a HOB filter(whisper 5) Any other ideas for Filtration. I would like to put some live rock in there, as it would make a more natural looking tank. But i dont want a tank full of rock either.
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Old 04-12-2005, 02:42 PM   #2
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You could pick up a Diatom Filter, Vortex brand works extremely well at keeping water crystal clear. Only downside is they are around 75-100 bucks.


As for LR, in a 90g you would have an immense amount of room for rock placement. I only have about 40lbs or LR in my 30g and it still looks scarce.
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Old 04-13-2005, 09:31 PM   #3
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I was hoping for a few more responses..PLEASE!! What is everybody using? Is it just liverock powerhead and canister?
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Old 04-13-2005, 09:44 PM   #4
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Well, as you probibly know, Damsels make poor community members. I have seen them kill several Ocellaris Clowns in the tanks at the LFS. So I would highly recommend you stay away from damsels.

As far as filtration goes, YOu will want a Skimmer, and of-course Live Rock. Many people go with a Wet Dry Filtration system on their tanks, but that is kinda being phased out for more favorable methods.

Your current HOB filter will not be nearly powerful enough. If you don't want to have alot of live rock, (and thats understandable, because your looking at about 500-600 bucks to do it right) I would recommend a large canister filter, the largest you can find. (about 200-250 bucks) I have a Magnum 350 on my 37 gallon that works well. I would not recomend anything smaller than that.

You will also want to be able to push around the water pretty good. dead spots are not good in a SW tank. Look at investing in about 3 good powerheads. (maxi-jet 1200)

Of course don't forget the skimmer! A good protien skimmer works wonders to remove alot of the gunk. The Aqua C Remora is a great skimmer for a tank that size. (170.00ish)

thats about all I can think of right now...feel free to ask more questions.
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Old 04-13-2005, 10:04 PM   #5
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WetDry systems are being phased out for what types of more favorable filtration? The real benefit I can see of wet dry system is for somewhere to throw everything there instead of in the tank..I mean basically if you have LR and a deep sand bed in the tank with powerheads hitting them, essentially they are doing the same thing as in the bottom of some of these wet/dry filters right?.
I was definately thinking about strong powerheads as when i have gone snorkeling and have seen the rough water and the damsels darting about business as usual. 3 sounds like a good number.
I want to go with fish too but mainly because damsel are hardy and are a good place to get back into SW. Also coming from a cichlids background i dont mind damsels.
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Old 04-14-2005, 12:49 AM   #6
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wet/drys are being replaced with sumps and fuges. which are really just wet/drys with all of the bio-media removed. Most people have a large sump where they hide their skimmers and heaters, and a fuge they fill with sand, LR and some sort of Macro Algea such as Cheato to help keep micro algea at bay.

Just be aware that damsels are quite vicious. You will need to take this into consideration when choosing future tankmates.
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I agree don't rush to damsels. There are alot of other easy to care for fish.
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All damsels are bad except Chromis.....
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Old 04-14-2005, 09:05 AM   #9
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Damsels sure get a bad rap here... I have two in my tank with a Flash (carpenter's wrasse) and they are doing fine. Damsels are known to be aggressive and territorial (especially the white and black striped and the devil). Overall I believe damsels to be ok fish if you are careful as to what you place in with them (as is the case with any fish). You wouldn't want to put some angel fish in with your prize corals would you?
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Old 04-14-2005, 09:26 AM   #10
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This might have been asked many times before. But what should go into the canister filter? I don't want to have alot of LR round, so I currently have the usual ceramic media for biological filtering and a coarse media for mechanical filtering in my canister. People have said this may become a nitrate factory. Has anyone had any success with this kind of filtration?
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