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Old 06-30-2009, 05:15 PM   #121
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If you bypass QT for your first fish, your display becomes a defact QT. If they are diseased... well so is your display.

I would highly suggest that you research quarantine, fish disease and it's spread and damsel fish. IMO you're heading down a path that might cost you some unnecessary $$$ along the way. You're drawing conclusions and making assumptions that are questionable at best.
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Old 06-30-2009, 05:19 PM   #122
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The clowns might be disease free and there is more of a chance with tank raised, but are the tanks at the live fish store disease free. If you get ich in on a fish in your DT, then it's in your tank. You would then have to remove all your fish into a QT for at least 30 days as to give the ich virus no host and let it die out. Your call. On the topic of the clownfish, get one small in size and one large. the large will become the female and the smaller one will become the male. You might still get some fights as the female test out the male.....see if he is fit........The clowns will defend their territory and become very aggressive if they mate and have eggs.
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Old 07-01-2009, 02:41 AM   #123
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Most fish stores have a large number, if not all, of their tanks set up to share a common sump, so regardless of origin any fish in their tanks has been exposed to the same pathogens.
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Most clowns will not pick on each other or other fish. Maroon clowns may/will pick on other clowns.
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Old 07-01-2009, 03:23 AM   #125
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Hello,
This is terrible news about the parasite sumps and the fish and all.
I dont have any more $$$ for a QT (basically a whole nother shindig)

Maybe I will just stick with hermit crabs for now...I got 5 hermits. Well, it looks like 4 and one shell. I did see the clowns and did see a maroon picking on the "normal" clowns...

This LFS seems pretty good. They were concerned about whether I had cycled or not before me buying some $1.00 crabs rather than push alot of fish on me. They also were glad to hear I didnt torture any Damsels!

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Old 07-01-2009, 03:37 AM   #126
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For a QT check craigslist daily because you can pick up complete 10g kits for next to nothing.
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:17 AM   #127
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Sadly, Craigslist sucks in my area. Ive been checking since day one of this adventure. There was one good deal, but the seller never bothered returning ANY of my messages....Oh well...
Suggest any interesting inverts?
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:30 AM   #128
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Well you might as well get some snails if you don't have any. I've always liked astrea and turbo's since I first got them.
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:21 PM   #129
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Hello,
So I was reading up on Ich and see that it is the most common crap for a fish to break out with. From what I understand, Ich is like herpes and that its usually ALWAYS present, but waiting for a lowered immune system to rear its head...

So, if fish are kept happy and fed well (garlic extract soaked food?) they ought to be fine. As soon as they stress, out comes Ich and it begins to reproduce in the tank. Right? It apparently never goes away, just goes back into hiding.

It seems inverts. are rarely QTined. Right? Since I have no other fish in the tank, wouldnt it be alright to take a chance with two tank raised clowns and then simply remove them if/when Ich pops up? I could then stick them in some kind of cheap setup for medicine and wait it out. (Large bucket or something)

I dont mean to sound haphazard, just poor now. I deffinately spent more than I intended to when I first showed up here. Im guessing thats how things go though!

Seems to me that it is safe to assume that yes, they will have Ich but they should be fine if acclimated right and fed right. They will have plenty of places to hide in the tank and nothing to compete with. My water is still great! Zeros for everything but Nitrates. (5-10ppm). pH=8.2 or so.


Is it me, or do hermit crabs have something against algae? The hermits I put in yesterday do nothing but tear up algae! I had some fuzzy green looking stuff on a rock and its all gone now! The hermits herded together and spent a few hours removing it all. Now they are "hunting" more stuff down. I hope there is enough for them to eat. I dont know whats algae and whats not. There is alot of filament looking stuff on the rocks now. White in color. They are constantly picking at stuff on the rocks and shoving it into their little mouths...

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Matt, It comes down to what you can live with. Tank raised Clowns are always a better option. Like I stated earlier..it's what is at the LFS that you have to worry about.
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