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Old 06-06-2009, 05:35 PM   #51
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Hello,
While waiting for the tank, I have been reading up on water. I will need around 18 gallons or so I guess (leave room for sand and rock). I have ready nasty stuff about tap water, but just cannot ordering any kind of RO or DI machine. ($$$ reasons). I can buy de-chlorinator, but that doesnt do anything about any phosphorus or diatoms that may be in the water. Are there water test kits that will let me detect this stuff in the tap water before using it? Would the DIY filter+carbon be decent enough (along with the de-chlorinator) to use? There is bottled water refilling machine at a Publix near me that apparently uses 8 steps to purify the water with the final step being UV light. 30cents a gallon is great, but that means filling up 20 1 gallon jugs and looking like an idiot!


I know that a RO/DI machine is going to be the best advice, but its just out of the question (for now). I need to stop the bleeding ($$$) for now. I still have to buy the water testing stuff as well as a thing of salt.

Also, I got my 30lbs of "live" sand in the mail today. I need to wash it. This obviously will need purified water to wash, but how much? (A rough estimate). Is this something that can be done with a 5 gallon bucket and some purified drinking water? The guy swears there is live coralline algea in the sand. Even though I told him I could care less if its live or not, he still insists that I dont mistreat the sand as it is alive. (I bought it as it was $20 for 30lbs) If it really is alive, great. I plan to use live rock for cycling and seeding though.

So I guess to sum everything up, should I test the tap water or just go get 20 jugs filled up at Publix.:p

Thanks guys, the process will begin soon!
Also, how familiar are you guys with ebay sellers? Theres a guy with good feedback selling all sorts of stuff in my state. Overnight fedex to me is $20.00 and he gives $5.00 back to those ordering in my state. (Florida).
eBay Store - Oceans Garden Inc: saltwater fish, coral, Reef
Does he seem legit? (Incase my local store is overpriced or such?)
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Old 06-06-2009, 05:52 PM   #52
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"They also reccomend a 45 member cleaner crew for a 20gallon reef tank. This seems like an awful lot of critters. Would that be safe? How much ammonia to crabs and snails produce?"
In my 85g(65g w/20g sump) I have 100+ nirite snails, 5 brittle stars, 6 hermit crabs, 2 gobies, three clowns, 1 carninalfish, 1 bi-color chromis, and a yellow tang. I have not had to clean the inside glass for over 3 months now.
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Old 06-06-2009, 06:28 PM   #53
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As far as your water, i dont know if i would trust the water machines. you mite get a sample and test it. i ordered my ro/di from ebay, but i got water from my LFS i actualy got saltwater to fill my tank. i think i payed 1.00 a gallon but most aslo sell ro/di as well i think my LFS sells it for .40 a gal..
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Old 06-06-2009, 08:24 PM   #54
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Hello,
So you guys got me on the RO/DI machine...I am a huge bottled water drinker as the tap water here tastes nasty to me. I love the Glacier brand water (which adds nothing back to the water for taste) so I could also drink the RO/DI water as well as use for my tank, right? Whats a good system on ebay cost? I found a few for less than $150 shipped, but know ZIP about what to look for in a system. How often do the filters and such need replacing? I guess what I am getting at, is how much will this cost me as in $/gallon to compare to what I would pay for it by the gallon somewhere else?

If its comparable to 30cents a gallon, id deffinately get one today! I hate lugging all my jugs to the store to fill up every few days (for drinking). Id love to be able to fill them up as I need them at home.

Anyone here have experience with the taste and what to look for in a system? Most of them on ebay seemed geared for salt water aquariums as their ads are full of fishy pics and whatnot. Id want to be able to hook this right up to my faucet and then have an easy way to send it into a 1 gallon jug.

Thanks for all the help!
PS- Here is a random example on ebay I found:
REEF + HOUSE RO DI REVERSE OSMOSIS WATER FILTER SYSTEM - eBay (item 200348604075 end time Jun-07-09 06:39:56 PDT)
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Old 06-06-2009, 08:54 PM   #55
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Yes its very good to drink, and it will be worth it in the long run, drinking it and doing your PWC if you have 18g of saltwater in your tank your gonna wanna do 5g PWC a week or so.. not to mention the its good for cleaning anything that goes in your tank, i use ro water to mix my superbuffer and chems i put in my tank. right now i have 5g sitting in a 5g bucket to clean everything and mix with my chems till i get mine.. not to memtion its gonna save me 1.00 a gal and hauling time from the LPS. i looked for one that was made for salt tanks. then i bought that model.. i bought a Bulky reef 5 stage, but you can use a 4 stage.. i actualy just bought another from a guy on craigslist that had one for 50 bucks w/ new 1 month old filters.. you could check their aswell.. but it will save you money!
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Old 06-06-2009, 11:34 PM   #56
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I will get a RO/DI system then since it will serve two purposes. Can you tell me what to expect? Is it easy to hook up and get going? I plan to hook it up to a hose from outside as I dont want to attempt any plumbing here. (Renting). How is it operated? Hose as input, DI water as output?

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You can skip the DI stage when you're making drinking water. The RO stage alone will make water plenty pure for drinking (more pure than bottled water) and it will make the DI unit last a lot longer. I'd still put it through the DI for the tank to avoid buildup of salts when you top off evaporated water.
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Hello,
Still waiting on my tank...I got my "live" sand in the mail. Not as white as the pictures show it, but its white alright. Very moist (havent opened the plastic bag its in yet). Any good ways to wash this stuff?

The sand came with some instructions and a tip to stick a hose in the bag and cut some holes. Seems this would spew chlorine and all sorts of bad into the sand. Whats a good way to get the sand ready for the tank?

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DON'T WASH TEH SAND!!

If you wash the sand, you'll kill any bacteria that remained alive through the storage and shipping process. The only way I'd wash sand is with water from an established tank which probably isn't available to you!! I didn't buy live sand, just plain 'ol aragonite, and I didn't even wash that. Doesn't seem to have caused me any problems!!
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I agree there is no reason to wash your sand
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