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Old 10-16-2004, 06:06 PM   #11
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If its a FO tank the the puffer is cool..... NO fish at all till the cycle is finished, this could be a week-2-3 weeks depending on the die off. Don't go by what the water looks like go by the test kits. Add 1 fish and see how that goes after a few weeks add another and so on. Do not add 2-3 fish at once this is just asking for trouble. The good bacteria needs time to grow with each fish added. Add the tang last they can be territorial. In a mature adding a few fish at once is ok but not in a new setup could cause a mini cycle.
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Old 10-17-2004, 07:47 PM   #12
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i have been getting an increasing about of white spots on the rocks and it almost looks like the coraline isnt as strong. what is going on with that?
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Old 10-18-2004, 09:13 AM   #13
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Figure about 4-6 weeks for your tank to fully cycle at which point you can start to add fish. However, recommend that you QT your new fish before adding to the main tank to avoid importing any diseases. Assuming that your fish list is one of each, that should be okay. You may also want to get a clean up crew to help with waste control. The spot on your LR may end up being some sort of good growth, so don't worry about it, it should flourish as time goes on, May be a coral or two! HTH
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Old 10-18-2004, 04:50 PM   #14
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what clean up crew would be ok with the fish im getting. im afraid some of the aggressive fish like the puffer will attack them. what clean up crew and how much do you guys prefer. also will some starfish be ok to add with fish like the puffer. also my ph is low, and i know the water needs to have air. should i take off the galss tops, what other things can i do to up the ph and keep it steady...possible put a air head in the filter...? my prism protein skimmer does create a lot of bubbles...

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Old 10-18-2004, 05:07 PM   #15
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I am not sure about the puffer, you will have to check on its appetite for inverts, however the Tang and anthia will be fine with the 'crew.' usually a combination of hermit crabs (scarlet, dwarf blue tip, red tip) and snails (puffer may snack on these, check compatibility) usually astrae, margaritas and they are a few others you may want to check into. I also have a couple of bristle stars (good scavengers, sand stirrer) and a couple of sea cucumbers (scavenger) If you look at www.etropicals.com, they have a build-your-own package or you can buy a pre-pack of them. All of these help control all sorts of algae, excess food and waste. I also have a few cleaner shrimp (ambionesis Lysamata) but I know that the puffer will definitely have these for dessert. HTH 8)
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Old 10-18-2004, 09:32 PM   #16
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AAAAAAA!!! just tested water and these are my new results on the red sea test kit:

Ammonia: 1.0
PH: 7.8
Nitrite: >1
Nitrate: 50
alkalinity: Normal

they shot up even more!!! should i do anything or still just leave it be... i mean are you sure i shouldn't do a water change or clean the filter(rinse the top pat its really dirty, and where the water enters is dirty too now)???
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Old 10-19-2004, 09:01 AM   #17
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Hang tight buddy. Put your hands in your pocket. Just keep your skimmer running and clean but don't change anything else. Sounds like you had a lot of die-off and what you are witnessing is a normal cycle as the tank and the LR stabilizes. Everything is good. You will have a nice bacteria-colonized tank before you know it.
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Old 10-19-2004, 07:54 PM   #18
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Will it be alright if i remove one of the rocks and reclean it with a tooth brush and put it back. It is the only rock that has big black stains, and also the only rock that still has to sponges on it that i would like to remove... will this be alright or should i just leave it? oh... and also i have been advised to turn off the lights and leave them on for only 3-4 hours due to algae growth, is this alright also?

thanks again guys.. you came to my rescue once again...
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Old 10-19-2004, 11:55 PM   #19
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here is a picture of the the rock. it contains about 70% of the hole tanks deadness.
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Old 10-20-2004, 03:31 PM   #20
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My NH3/NH4 went up to 7.0 (!) during the cycle. My first batch was imported pacific rock and had a ton of dieoff including a few baseball sized sponges.

After about 5 weeks things settled down.
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