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Old 01-23-2005, 10:51 PM   #1
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Adding live rock

Double checking its about 1.5 - 2.0 lbs of live rock to the gallon right? I know getting the live rock is really an expensive part of it all, is it ok to add more live rock after you already have added some, or should it all be added at once, currently i don't think i could be able to buy the whole 100lbs of live rock for my 55gal fish tank all at once.

Also, would there be any problems to using less then recommended amount of live rock in the fish tank, or would that just make it look really bare ?

I live in canada i know buying the live rock over the internet would be cheaper then my LFS, but i have not been able to find any places that ship to canada, if anyone knows of a site please let me know.
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100lbs is plenty for a 55g tank. You can start with one box and add more later. You'll need to cure the second batch of rock before you add it though or your tank may cycle again due to the die off on the rock. You can use the first batch of rock to cycle the tank. You can use less LR depending on the bioload of the tank and the porosity of the rock. The more porous the rock, the better biofilter it makes.
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Old 01-23-2005, 11:39 PM   #3
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Know of any place to buy live rock that will ship to canada ?
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Old 01-24-2005, 12:08 AM   #4
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i was wondering is it ok if i put fully cured LR in the newly set up tank? how should i start cycle the new tank?
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Old 01-24-2005, 12:10 AM   #5
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If no die off from LR you can use the cocktail shrimp method. You may need more than 1 shrimp to cycle a 55gal though.
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Old 01-24-2005, 12:12 AM   #6
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the rock that i just bought is from LFS. they say no die off... so.... do i still need shrimp?
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Old 01-24-2005, 12:18 AM   #7
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If the LR was cured at the LFS and you took it home from there and into the tank you should not have any die off. You can use the shrimp or any source of ammonia. To start the nitrogen cycle you need to have the ammonia to establish the proper bacteria. You can use the shrimp or add a pinch of food or even use pure ammonia.

Of course if this rock is being added to an established tank you dont need to worry about cycling again.
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4 mexican turbo snails, 15 nassarius snails
ricordea mushroom, candy cane coral,
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Old 01-24-2005, 12:28 AM   #8
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can i use raw frozen shrimp?
so.. in this way, i don't need to use any live fish like damsel to cycle my tank, right?
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That shrimp will be fine. The shrimp or other source of ammonia will take the place of the live fish. That means no suffering for them and no hassle for you (trying to remove damsels after the cycle).
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i don understand, if using s shrimp can start the nitrogen cycle then why do we need LR? what is the purpose of LR?
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