Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Saltwater and Reef > Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 12-12-2010, 10:39 PM   #21
Aquarium Advice Activist
 
atte's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 133
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason7894561230 View Post
Cant wait to see this tank set up. I wish my teacher set up a tank but no. you must be a really cool teacher!
Same here! I'm a high school senior and we don't have any classes that sound as cool as yours! We have a greenhouse with a few fw fish and other animals, but no actual classes with live animals. Good luck with your class, it sounds fun!
__________________

__________________
3g Betta cube
29g FOWLR (No longer up)
atte is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2010, 10:54 AM   #22
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 18
Just a quick update: Came in this morning and the Percula Clownfish seems to have settled in nicely. Also, the Green Chromis that my husband and I spent an hour tearing the tank apart looking for on Saturday, he miraculously reapered during first period, go figure... So, other than the domino who was bullied, everyone seems to be doing well.
__________________

__________________
New Aquatics Teacher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-13-2010, 11:58 AM   #23
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Floyd R Turbo's Avatar


 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: West Des Moines, Iowa
Posts: 1,682
I think it's great that you are heading up such a huge project - 28 tanks! I'm currently trying to save a tank at a local elementary school, but their budget is pretty limited so it would become almost a charity case. You must be a biology teacher I'm guessing?

A couple of things you might want to consider:

1) Search the web for a local reef society group, if you're in or near a major city, chances are that you have one. I would be willing to bet that you may be able to solicit tax-deductible donations of Live Rock, equipment, fish, corals, etc if you have an active and friendly group. I have found that in my local reef society there are always people with too many corals, fish conflicts, etc or are just getting out and you can get all kinds of stuff uber cheap.

2) I would strongly consider the ramification of harvesting livestock or anything else from the ocean, even with a permit. What I am referring to is that you never know what you're going to bring into your system from the ocean. There are contaminants that, from what I understand, tend to me concentrated on the shoreline. You also greatly increase the possibility of introducing unwanted pests into your systems. Some of these can be quite dangerous. I'm searching for the link on here to a Reef Central thread where a guy got a bunch of stuff from the beach, and one of the 'campers' was a type of copepod or something that burrows into your skin and causes a severe rash. Other things like certain snails and shrimp can cause problems. Just something to be aware of!

3) Test strips are notoriously inaccurate, and they also must be discarded if they are expired (especially if they are expired!). The best bang for your buck will be the API Master Test Kit, there are 2 versions for SW, a Reef Master and Saltwater Master. Get the SW Master at a minimum because you need to find out if you have any ammonia or nitrite right now - I wouldn't trust the dip strips. You also want to test your Alkalinity so you might want to get that test separately. You can wait on Calcium until you decide to go to a full blown reef, and unless you get a bigger tank with a lot of hard corals, good lights, and lots of flow, calcium probably won't be that big of a concern. But as I'm writing this, I realize you probably know this - I forgot about your large aquarium experience.

4) I would say that if you know - for sure - that you will be going to a much larger tank, then you might be able to get away with adding a small Blue Tang. However, you must exercise caution here, because a Blue Tang is a very calm, docile fish, and is susceptible to Head and Lateral Line Erosion (HLLE) when stressed, and putting one in a tank with aggressive damsels may not be the best choice. I think it would be a better idea to wait until you have the bigger tank, or better yet, wait until you have multiple tanks and make one an aggressive tank and save the Blue Tang for the community/friendly tank.

5) I would not bury the dead fish in the substrate. This was a serious error, IMO. I would locate the remains and remove it immediately. The fish that are in the system are providing a significant enough amount of ammonia to feed whatever bacterial colony is established, and this bacterial colony will size itself according to the bioload requirement. On this note, Biozyme and other like products are rarely effective, so while it may have provided a small amount of bacteria, it is more likely that it did not, and your tank is now in a cycling process, a mini-cycle at minimum. This causes stress on the fish and is likely a contributor to the the deaths experienced (on top of the bullying).

I would be interested to hear more about your experience working on major aquariums. Which aquariums and what was your job?

What size are the 18 tanks you have for the students?

Welcome to AA, you will find very patient and helpful people here. Again I commend you on bringing this into a classroom environment on such a constrained budget! Find local people to help contribute!
__________________
My tanks: 120 Reef w/L2 Algae Scrubber, 60 Reef Pond w/floating Algae Scrubber, 40 Breeder Reef w/L2 UAS Tester Algae Scrubber
I maintain: 144 SW Reef w/L2 Algae Scrubber | 200 SW Reef w/L4 Algae Scrubber
Special knowledge: Algae Scrubbers, Acrylic Fabrication
Floyd R Turbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2010, 09:20 PM   #24
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
SAAVE853's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Miami Beach, FL
Posts: 275
I would have love to have something like this going on when i was in high-school. I just found a site that might be helpful to you in getting funding.

DonorsChoose.org: An online charity connecting you to classrooms in need
__________________
Live & Let Live!
SAAVE853 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2010, 01:11 AM   #25
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
cabezon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Tampa FL
Posts: 1,010
I find tons of stuff on craigslist.org. there are people that have had breeding operations in their houses, that are practically giving away lots of little tanks. I belong to a reef club, and we have many many resources, such as live rock or pumps, filters, that are just lying around. check where you live. They will also have lots of people who would love to help in any way.

cycles take time. everything about aquariums is patience. I don't know what time frame you have with your students, but things can be adapted. If you already have established live rock you can split that up between some tanks. If you have filters running, split the media.

you will want to do plenty of PWCs. Do you have a RO/DI filter? with a 50 gallon barrel on a dolly, you could quickly change a gallon or so in each tank.

for rocks, I would not use any from the backyard unless you know your geology. You get some limestone or high phosphate or silicate rock you will be overrun with algae. Same with play sand, high in silicates Hard rocks will not help, like granite. you wont have any porosity. I dont know what lava rocks for the grill are for composition, but they are shape wise what you would look for.

best wishes
__________________
cabezon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2010, 09:03 AM   #26
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
mr_X's Avatar


 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Fairless Hills, Pa.
Posts: 17,895
Send a message via MSN to mr_X
i heard the lava rocks leach a lot of iron.
__________________
thanks,
Doug
mr_X is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2010, 09:40 AM   #27
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Floyd R Turbo's Avatar


 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: West Des Moines, Iowa
Posts: 1,682
Silica based play sand is fine. The silica is locked into a crystalline matrix and doesn't dissolve. If it did, the glass from you tank would raise silicate levels.

Didn't know about the lava rock. That might be useful to me since I'm dosing Iron in the reef w/the ATS, until I can increase the flow rate.
__________________
My tanks: 120 Reef w/L2 Algae Scrubber, 60 Reef Pond w/floating Algae Scrubber, 40 Breeder Reef w/L2 UAS Tester Algae Scrubber
I maintain: 144 SW Reef w/L2 Algae Scrubber | 200 SW Reef w/L4 Algae Scrubber
Special knowledge: Algae Scrubbers, Acrylic Fabrication
Floyd R Turbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2010, 09:46 AM   #28
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
mr_X's Avatar


 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Fairless Hills, Pa.
Posts: 17,895
Send a message via MSN to mr_X
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_X View Post
i heard the lava rocks leach a lot of iron.
...among other things.

from a google search:
Lava rock - 3reef Forums
__________________
thanks,
Doug
mr_X is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2010, 12:21 PM   #29
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Floyd R Turbo's Avatar


 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: West Des Moines, Iowa
Posts: 1,682
Good to know!! One of the tanks I rescued had taken some of the lava rock from their waterfall/goldfish pond and put it in their SW tank, and took some LR from the SW tank and put it in the pond because they liked the way it looked. Thankfully, I made the switch back when I fixed up the tank, not out of knowledge but I think out of instinct, and it turns out that instinct was pretty good I guess.
__________________
My tanks: 120 Reef w/L2 Algae Scrubber, 60 Reef Pond w/floating Algae Scrubber, 40 Breeder Reef w/L2 UAS Tester Algae Scrubber
I maintain: 144 SW Reef w/L2 Algae Scrubber | 200 SW Reef w/L4 Algae Scrubber
Special knowledge: Algae Scrubbers, Acrylic Fabrication
Floyd R Turbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2010, 02:04 PM   #30
AA Team Emeritus
 
cmor1701d's Avatar


 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Belle Mead, NJ
Posts: 7,814
I would also suggest that you start contacting the large online retailers (Drs Foster and Smith, That Pet Place, Marine Depot, Big Al's, etc.) and manufacturers asking for a grant of FREE SUPPLIES to help with your project.

You may be helping them out, especially for products with an expiration date or old/obsolete stock. By donating to the school they can take a charitable contribution instead of a potential loss.
__________________

cmor1701d is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
new tank setup, setting up, tan

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Setting up a new tank.. looking for advice pirateshake Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion 3 08-02-2008 11:23 PM
Setting up new 55 g Mburu Tank - Advice please jamesrm Cichlid Discussion 9 01-02-2007 11:23 AM
setting up a puffer tank in a 20 Long! need advice. exodus Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion 12 06-23-2006 08:51 PM
Advice on setting up a 150g tank Mothi Freshwater & Brackish - Getting Started 6 10-14-2004 03:33 AM
Need advice setting up FO tank! Rod18844 Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started 2 11-27-2003 01:21 AM







» Photo Contest Winners








Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:57 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.