Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Saltwater and Reef > Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 12-25-2008, 11:56 PM   #1
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
HoCkEyGmC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Detroit Area
Posts: 1,008
Send a message via AIM to HoCkEyGmC
Aggressive 55 stock sound ok?

didnt get my light like i was hopeing for to go reef so im just gunna stick with the crappy 36 watt and go fowlr(ish). im going to scrap up some money for a better filter just to let evry1 know. (sump is sadly out of the question so whats the next best thing?)

for now im thinking:
1 fuzzy dwarf lion
1 snowflake eel
1 maroon clown (YSM maybe) ((how bout a maited pair))
and 1 coral beauty
and maybe some damsels depending on how it all works out.

i know my cuc would be extreemly limited because of the fish so i would be thinking some longspine urchins maybe? and maybe as large as possible arrow crab for when all of the fish are tiny(ish)? EDIT: and maybe some tube nems? and how about lobsters? (larger to start of course)
first fowlr so im open to anything!
thanks!

just for laughs this is my old list that i looked at earlier. wayyyyyyyyyyyy too many fish and horrible combos and such.

2 or 4 clarki
copperbanded butterfly
yellow tang
blue tang
niger trigger
2-4 Bicolor Pseudochromis
some(3ish) blue or green chromis'
2 red scooter blennies
2-4 cardinals
fuzzy dwarf lion
2-4 firefish
bullet goby or 2-4 diamond gobies

lol i look back at this and i see how crazy i was.
thanks!
__________________

__________________
HoCkEyGmC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2008, 01:10 PM   #2
AA Team Emeritus
 
roka64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 13,860
Send a message via AIM to roka64 Send a message via Yahoo to roka64
You have done some great research. Now, you will need to stock according to fish size, but this part might be tough. You will need GSMs to be larger than the lion (GSMs are damsel fish by the way and very aggressive), so they should be added last.
A lobster will quickly out grow a 55.
An arrow crab can and will spear fish for food.
I like the idea of the long spined urchin. You might be able to get a larger pincushion or pencil. They chow down on about anything.
I believe you should be safe with a variation of snails. I like nassis, ceriths and margaritas. The eel or lion might try to snack on a few of them, but if you keep them fed, the CUC should be ok.
__________________

__________________
Age is relative, you are only as old as you act....of course, this works in reverse....

Questions loved, heeded advice greatly appreciated!

Vote for AA
Good reading about:
Nitrogen Cycle
Fishless Cycling
Need more help?
Articles
Acronym List

--Scott
roka64 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2008, 02:50 PM   #3
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
HoCkEyGmC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Detroit Area
Posts: 1,008
Send a message via AIM to HoCkEyGmC
yeah, i was wondering about the urchins too, it seems like they would be ok and be able to protect themselfs. so snails would still be ok? and how bout stars? and i thought an arrow crab would need to be defending its self rather than hunt fish? and hermits are a no correct?
and what would be the best type of filtration (besides a sump =[ ).
thanks!
__________________
HoCkEyGmC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2008, 03:04 PM   #4
AA Team Emeritus
 
roka64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 13,860
Send a message via AIM to roka64 Send a message via Yahoo to roka64
I've never kept eels but when Mike or Cindy see this thread (along with any other folks that have direct experience) can give you better advice.
I THINK stars would be ok, the eel/lion eat crustaceans (critters with exoskeletons, like crabs and shrimp) and possibly smaller fish.
Hermits should be ok as well, but with the rest there is no real guarantee.
What kind of filtration are talking about....bio, mechanical or chemical?
__________________
Age is relative, you are only as old as you act....of course, this works in reverse....

Questions loved, heeded advice greatly appreciated!

Vote for AA
Good reading about:
Nitrogen Cycle
Fishless Cycling
Need more help?
Articles
Acronym List

--Scott
roka64 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2008, 03:14 PM   #5
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
HoCkEyGmC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Detroit Area
Posts: 1,008
Send a message via AIM to HoCkEyGmC
just the best possible type of filter besides a sump like hob, cannister, skimmer, a combo, or what?
__________________
HoCkEyGmC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2008, 03:21 PM   #6
AA Team Emeritus
 
roka64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 13,860
Send a message via AIM to roka64 Send a message via Yahoo to roka64
If you have plenty of LR, and keep up with the PWCs, you really don't need an extra filter. You could a a fuge and some macro for additional nutrient export. I see your concern with the messy eaters, but if you follow the above everything should be fine.
On a personal note. I like cannister filters, so I can add LR rubble and other media like purigen or to temporarily add carbon.
__________________
Age is relative, you are only as old as you act....of course, this works in reverse....

Questions loved, heeded advice greatly appreciated!

Vote for AA
Good reading about:
Nitrogen Cycle
Fishless Cycling
Need more help?
Articles
Acronym List

--Scott
roka64 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2008, 03:56 PM   #7
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
HoCkEyGmC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Detroit Area
Posts: 1,008
Send a message via AIM to HoCkEyGmC
I was thinking about a cannoster but people turned me away. And for a fuge what type? I'm on a cash restraint cuz I still can't legally work. Any good cannoster you would reccomend? And how often should I feed them and with what?
Thanks a bundle!
__________________
HoCkEyGmC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2008, 05:31 PM   #8
SW REEF 18+ YEARS
Community Admin
 
melosu58's Avatar



Tank of the Month Award
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Virginia
Posts: 38,249
The lobster will be toast because of the eel and lion fish. Your CUC will be limited because of them.
__________________

SITE ADMINISTRATOR

You can view many of my fish and corals in my photo albums in my profile.

View my tank


AA Community Rules|AA TOS

Forums 101 - posting, accounts, basics
melosu58 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2008, 06:06 PM   #9
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
HoCkEyGmC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Detroit Area
Posts: 1,008
Send a message via AIM to HoCkEyGmC
Yup. I realize this. That's why I'm asking what would be safe with my fish selection? Stars crabs urchins snails or what? Anything?
Thanks!
__________________
HoCkEyGmC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2008, 10:20 PM   #10
AA Team Emeritus
 
roka64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 13,860
Send a message via AIM to roka64 Send a message via Yahoo to roka64
Wow, looking back on my posts, I'm either bad at grammar, typing (i think that's it) or proofreading!
Mike, I thought I read a post where your nassis did pretty well even with your (R.I.P) beloved snowflake.
Nassis stay under the sand so they should be ok. What other snail worked well for you? I know the asternis did well also?
__________________

__________________
Age is relative, you are only as old as you act....of course, this works in reverse....

Questions loved, heeded advice greatly appreciated!

Vote for AA
Good reading about:
Nitrogen Cycle
Fishless Cycling
Need more help?
Articles
Acronym List

--Scott
roka64 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
aggressive, stock

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Does this sound okay? klj_current Freshwater & Brackish - Getting Started 5 04-20-2008 03:27 PM
How does this sound OceanMist Saltwater Reef Aquaria 7 07-08-2006 08:52 PM
Dwarf Gouramis/colisa lalia aggressive or non aggressive Charlotte Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion 1 04-22-2006 08:03 PM
How does this sound? zacdl Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion 8 08-16-2005 10:22 PM
How does this sound? Hutch Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion 2 04-01-2005 11:12 AM







» Photo Contest Winners








Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:23 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.