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Old 07-06-2003, 09:24 PM   #1
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All about sumps

I have been doing some research on sumps as of lately. I am thinking about incorporating one into my SW aquarium I am building. I have some questions, though, that I wanted to run by everyone... This will be a 29 gallon reef tank with 2-3 small fish max. Everything else will be inverts. Tank will be using the Berlin method of filtration.

Do I need any filtration in the sump other than the protein skimmer? If I understand the Berlin method properly, I don't need anything in the sump other than the protein skimmer, heater, and pump. This correct? Why do I see people that have filters in their sump? Are they using another method of filtration other than the Berlin and need mechanical filtration of some kind?

The reason for using a sump really caught my eye when I saw I could hide everything under the tank out of view. I could also hook up a kalkwasser drip line under the tank that would drip continuously into the sump. What a great idea!!

Went to Wal-mart and they have 10 gallon tanks for sale at $8.99. What a cheap sump that would make...
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I would turn it into a fuge, put a VDSB and some LR
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Do I need any filtration in the sump other than the protein skimmer?
With enough LR and/or LS, no you don't

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Really depends on the person.

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Are they using another method of filtration other than the Berlin and need mechanical filtration of some kind?
I run Carbon filtration due to the size of the tank, I run it 24/7, but most will run it a few days per month.

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Unless the tank is drilled, don't forget the expense of the overflow
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I run carbon for 2 days every other day or so, sometimes more.
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Old 07-06-2003, 09:47 PM   #5
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The tank is 29 gallons. I am thinking approx 50-60 lbs of LR would suffice as the filter. I will then add in some southdown sand and seed it with LS from the LFS.

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Yeah I was looking at HOT overflows. They will run me about $60 just for that... Not the cheapest item.

In the simplest since, the sump will not need baffles. This correct? Do I really need a baffle for anything if I won't be putting any filter media inside it?
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you'll want baffles to reduce bubbles returning to the tank from the turbulence created by the falling water.
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Are you not gonna drill it?
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you'll want baffles to reduce bubbles returning to the tank from the turbulence created by the falling water.
Didn't think about that at all. Ok, well I could buy two piece of plexi glass and use those for baffles. Should work fine...

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Do I really need to? I thought a HOT would be alot easier to put together...
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what is a HOT?
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HOT = hang on tank

And I agree it is easier, but if I had my druthers (not real sure what a druther is, but if I had mine) I'd have a drilled tank. Much cleaner and IMO easier to deal with.
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