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Old 03-09-2005, 09:38 PM   #1
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Angry with shrimp!!! HELP

I have a 50gal tank with a yellow tang, fire fish and tomato clown, basic wet / dry. About 1 1/2 weeks ago I bought a skunk cleaner shrimp from my LFS. Acclimated him 2 hours with the drip method. They had this shrimp about 3 weeks. The next morning he's dead!!

Bought a blood shrimp they have had for about 4 days, acclimated him for 3 1/2 hours w/ the drip method. He is dead with in 3 hours of going in the tank. That is of shrimp. I should have gone for a nice shrimp meal somewhere for that price. Needless to say I am quite angry. Please help!!

Ammn.=Maybe .3 to .4
Nitrite=0; (darn colors are so close together hard to read)
Nitrate=about 7;
PH about 8.4
temp 80;
SG 1.022
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Ammn.=Maybe .3 to .4
This is probably the reason why. How long has the tank been set up?
Inverts are even more sensitive to ammonia than fish.
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Old 03-09-2005, 09:57 PM   #3
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tank has been set up for about 2 months.
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-50gal tank
-20gal tall sump / refugium.
-About 15-20 lbs of live rock
-60 lbs (3") of sand.
-2x65w power compact lights
-2x18w power compact in the refug.
-bak pak 2R
-3 LARGE feather dusters all differebt colors
-orange spotted goby
-fire fish
-12 or so hermits
-50-60 nassairus snails
-about 12 turno snails
-emrald crab
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Old 03-09-2005, 10:01 PM   #4
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I agree. Ammonia is mostl likely the culpret. How did you cycle the tank? Can you verify the ammonia with another test kit?
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Old 03-09-2005, 10:01 PM   #5
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Would .3 ammonia really be enough to KILL a shrimp? If that were the case, wouldn't it be virtually impossible to add new LR or even a couple of new fish to a tank without endangering the inverts?
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SG 1.024, temp 79.5, pH 8.4

Livestock I added:

1 skunk cleaner. 12 hermits: red, scarlet, blue. 15 or so assorted snails. Discosomas, Ricordia, Rhodactis mushroom corals, chaetomorpha (sump), 1 feather duster, Montipora digitata, Montipora capricornis, Montipora hispids. assorted zoos, Xenia, Kenya tree coral, green Sinularia, green star polyps, branching hammer coral, bubble coral, Devil's hand leather. Yellow chromis, purple firefish.

Hitchhikers: the usual suspects :crabs, bristles, urchin, mantis shrimp (now in exile in mantis tank)

List of possible/likely newcomers:

Feather duster. PJ cardinal, Bangghai cardinal, Firefish goby, Clownfish, Neon goby, Yellow watchman goby, Orchid dottyback. Various corals.
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Old 03-09-2005, 10:18 PM   #6
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i would think adding shrimp to a system with amonia would be worse than them being in the system when the ammonia rose to that level

ive lost 1 fire and 2 cleaner shrimp both times within 2-3 days so i started using the drip method for around 2 hours then floating them for 20 mins and ive had no more deathes since
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Old 03-09-2005, 10:40 PM   #7
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i would think adding shrimp to a system with amonia would be worse than them being in the system when the ammonia rose to that level
That's probably a good point. After reading these posts, I ran to check my water, because I just added two peppermint shrimp today. Ammonia 0, nitrite 0, nitrate 10-15 (hard to match the color, so I'll say 15)

I'll probably do a water change tomorrow. I have a plug of chaeto in my sump and I'm getting some more to help with the nitrates, so my fingers are crossed for my first-ever shrimp!!
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30 gal standard 55 lbs LR, 60 lb live sand, 10 gal sump/refugium. Urchin skimmer, mag7 pump, 3 x 96W PC combination 10,000K/actinic bulb, 2 blue LED moonlights
SG 1.024, temp 79.5, pH 8.4

Livestock I added:

1 skunk cleaner. 12 hermits: red, scarlet, blue. 15 or so assorted snails. Discosomas, Ricordia, Rhodactis mushroom corals, chaetomorpha (sump), 1 feather duster, Montipora digitata, Montipora capricornis, Montipora hispids. assorted zoos, Xenia, Kenya tree coral, green Sinularia, green star polyps, branching hammer coral, bubble coral, Devil's hand leather. Yellow chromis, purple firefish.

Hitchhikers: the usual suspects :crabs, bristles, urchin, mantis shrimp (now in exile in mantis tank)

List of possible/likely newcomers:

Feather duster. PJ cardinal, Bangghai cardinal, Firefish goby, Clownfish, Neon goby, Yellow watchman goby, Orchid dottyback. Various corals.
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Why do you float them AFTER using the drip method? Equalizing temp first is supposed to help protect against pH differences, from what I understand. The drip method is then used to acclimate to new salinity and the pH difference not related to temperature.
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30 gal standard 55 lbs LR, 60 lb live sand, 10 gal sump/refugium. Urchin skimmer, mag7 pump, 3 x 96W PC combination 10,000K/actinic bulb, 2 blue LED moonlights
SG 1.024, temp 79.5, pH 8.4

Livestock I added:

1 skunk cleaner. 12 hermits: red, scarlet, blue. 15 or so assorted snails. Discosomas, Ricordia, Rhodactis mushroom corals, chaetomorpha (sump), 1 feather duster, Montipora digitata, Montipora capricornis, Montipora hispids. assorted zoos, Xenia, Kenya tree coral, green Sinularia, green star polyps, branching hammer coral, bubble coral, Devil's hand leather. Yellow chromis, purple firefish.

Hitchhikers: the usual suspects :crabs, bristles, urchin, mantis shrimp (now in exile in mantis tank)

List of possible/likely newcomers:

Feather duster. PJ cardinal, Bangghai cardinal, Firefish goby, Clownfish, Neon goby, Yellow watchman goby, Orchid dottyback. Various corals.
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Equalizing temp first is supposed to help protect against pH differences, from what I understand. The drip method is then used to acclimate to new salinity and the pH difference not related to temperature.
I float the bag in the tank for about a half hour to get a temp match then I drip acclimate in a bucket with a heater and a PH monitor.
When the temp, PH and SG match...I then add then to the system.
Inverts I drip very slow and have never lost one to an acclimation issue.
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I too float them After the drip method. I have not found a heater to go in my dripping bucket that fits yet...and with 2 to 3 hours of dripping the water gets colder in the bucket than the tank. So I float to temp acclimate before putting them in the tank. If it is a "mail order" shipment...I float before and after. Just to get the bags up to temp before the dripping beginnings. Haven't lost an invert or fish this way yet.

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