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Old 04-20-2011, 10:24 PM   #21
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ohh no nothing to do with a water change, i had a strange sound in my canister filter and I turned the water flow thingy and unplugged it and was going to check it well dumb me didnt realize that I had gravity working against me and I opened the canister and whooooooooooosh there goes the water hahah woops live and learn
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well, you need to cycle the tank. water changes are only slowing the process, or making the bacteria colony smaller/weaker. the important thing is just that, not keeping some pods or starfish alive. you'll be introducing plenty of them down the road.
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gotcha , One less thing for me to do for a few weeks lol

So basically I dont need to worry about levels until I get that new rock and start that cycle ... and then toss some shrimp (fresh but not live) in and the ammonia should rise then nitrites and then nitrates ( if I read correctly) and then I start doing water changes.. i think
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gotcha , One less thing for me to do for a few weeks lol

So basically I dont need to worry about levels until I get that new rock and start that cycle ... and then toss some shrimp (fresh but not live) in and the ammonia should rise then nitrites and then nitrates ( if I read correctly) and then I start doing water changes.. i think
yup thats the whole process
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Old 04-20-2011, 10:49 PM   #25
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only start the water changes after ammonia and nitrite gets to zero, not just when nitrates spike.
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:07 AM   #26
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Thank you, all you fishy experts haha I rely on you all a lot for advice and will continue to do so .... ( still bummed I wasted 50$ on grunge .. hope it does something for my tank )
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it'll probably so a small thing. grunge is refugium mud right? from what i hear its good for replenishing some trace elements, although i don't know how well it works
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no. garf grunge is not refugium mud. they tell you it's a collection of stuff obtained from live rock they put in their systems over time. it would be similar to scooping some of the soot out of the bottom of a live rock curing bin. allegedly "seeding" the tank with organisms that lived on their live rock. if you have your own live rock, those organisms come free.
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oh thats pretty dumb, how many organisms could actually be on there. i'd personally rather use an old filter pad to seed the tank over that
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Old 04-24-2011, 09:36 PM   #30
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Well yes that's what they claim on the grunge hahha, but I do in fact have old filter pads also. As the tank I have with the fluval filter has been in operation for some time, the live sand was about 6 months old when I bought it and I purchased another bag of live sand when I picked up the tank.

The dry rock from marko should be here this week along with the useless grunge lol and Im was thinking on going to get 1 live rock from the lfs to toss in there for some variety also maybe ask them for a cup of sand

SO... on top of all that. We decided to go with a sump instead of the over the back, cause I cant handle all the ugly pumps in my tank. So because we are working with such a small area underneath and we looked into the tanks we have here to try to use those (they wont work, they are to wide) We have decided to go with a pre-made acrylic one

15 Gal Refugium-Sump Wet/Dry Aquarium Filter 24x9x15 | eBay

its 24 by 9 by 15 (15 gallons) which gives us enough room to fit the skimmer underneath and the refugium. Now this sump is recommended at 200- 300 gph so I am assuming I need to look for an overflow box and a return pump (powerhead) that is around 250- 300 gph. My skimmer does 650-700 gph so hopefully that wont mess anything up. I got a new one its rated for 125 gallons and its the coralife ... I know some of you do not recommend that one.

My husband plans to put ball valves on what he can so he can shut them off if necessary and I know we need to drill 2 holes in the return line just under the surface of the water.
Is there anything else of massive importance I need to know before venturing into the sump world ? Im a little nervous about over flow but I plan to fake some power outages and siphon failure to try to avoid any possible mishap .

Thanks for all your help
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