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Old 04-24-2011, 09:59 PM   #31
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alrighty ... overflow box Aquarium Overflow Pre-Filter Box Eshopps PF-300 GPH



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and the return pump which is a

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rated at 375 gph at 4 feet, thats about the height we will be pumping at ...
will this work or am I going about it wrong?
Sorry I ask on everything but this has become more upfront $ than I thought , but I want to do it right so wasting any more money is not an option.
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Old 04-24-2011, 10:08 PM   #32
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i would get two of those over flow boxes 300gph isn't much flow for a 46 gallon wit ha 15 gallon sump/refugium.

to get the full benifit of a fuge you should have atleast 10x the system flow through it so in your system 600gph should be what you aim for
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i would get two of those over flow boxes 300gph isn't much flow for a 46 gallon wit ha 15 gallon sump/refugium.

to get the full benifit of a fuge you should have atleast 10x the system flow through it so in your system 600gph should be what you aim for

So would that become a problem with that 15 gallon sump tank since they recommended going 250-300 gph ? will it bust the seams or anything ? and instead of two if I do that could I just go with a larger one ?
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Old 04-24-2011, 10:55 PM   #34
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no it won't be a problem, unless the return pump doesn't fit in the return chamber but it should have more then enough space
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Old 04-24-2011, 11:56 PM   #35
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OK another sump question ... all I need is a line coming down from my overflow and a line going up from the powerhead for return .. is that correct ? all these plumbing diagrams I see are making it so confusing.

Im hoping all that is necessary is 2 lines... I did find a 600 gph overflow box I liked very much and also a rio 2500 pump for return. Now is says at 3 ft it would return 592 gph and at 4 feet it would be around 540ish . Is that ok or do I need to go higher if im doing a 600 gph overflow ?
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its a little slow but it would be ok and you'd hasve to adjust your overflow so its not pumping to much water out that the return pump can't send back up.

as for the way its plumbed, that is correct one from the overflow or overflows and one going from the return pump to the return jet or jets if multiple
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Would I be better suited to step it up to the rio 3100 that puts out 690 gph... or would that be too much. hahah I dont know which way is better to go a bit higher or lower? Are rio pumps even any good lol
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Old 04-25-2011, 07:10 AM   #39
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from what i heard the rio pumps aren't bad but the magpumps are better and what most use as their return pumps
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a 300 gph overflow is fine for that size tank. you only have to consider what components are in the sump. in other words, if you have a skimmer that has a 400 gph pump on it, it won't be working to capacity if you are only feeding it 300 gph.
a refugium is not cleaning water that fast that 300 gph won't be able to keep up.
that said, i would purchase the protein skimmer you want, and then purchase the sump to fit it, not the other way around.
i would stay away from the rio pumps. all of the ones i had didn't last very long. mag drives are better, as are "quiet one" pumps.
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