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Old 10-04-2011, 11:02 PM   #1
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Becoming frustrated....

I started my tank about a month ago, I added live rock and have come across a few hitch hikers that I have sought the groups help in identifying. I have a number of worms that are all the same, but I can't figure out what type they are. My fear is that they are fire worms. I posted a pic in another thread I started. Now I saw something on my tank that I think are hydroids. I've attached a pic that I found on the net. It's my understanding that they are bad for my tank and can sting. Am I misinformed? I also have a brittle starfish as well. I certainly didn't get a tank so that I could be stung by hitch hikers that I never wanted. My question is, can I get rid of my live rock and get rid of the hitch hikers? Or, is there a good possibility that they are in my sand substrate now as well. If that is the case, is there anything I can do apart from start over? Thanks for the help. I love my tank, but I'm getting some stuff I didn't want, and didn't realize I was opening myself up too. Thanks!
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Old 10-04-2011, 11:19 PM   #2
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Theyre probably in the sand. The brittle star is an awsome hitchhiker tho. Im not sure about the pic, buit dont give up!!!!!! Ive lost 3 fish in the past 2 weeks (2 today) from ick and diseases but you just have to keep trying!!!!!! GOOD LUCK!!!!!!
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Old 10-04-2011, 11:21 PM   #3
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I started my tank about a month ago, I added live rock and have come across a few hitch hikers that I have sought the groups help in identifying. I have a number of worms that are all the same, but I can't figure out what type they are. My fear is that they are fire worms. I posted a pic in another thread I started. Now I saw something on my tank that I think are hydroids. I've attached a pic that I found on the net. It's my understanding that they are bad for my tank and can sting. Am I misinformed? I also have a brittle starfish as well. I certainly didn't get a tank so that I could be stung by hitch hikers that I never wanted. My question is, can I get rid of my live rock and get rid of the hitch hikers? Or, is there a good possibility that they are in my sand substrate now as well. If that is the case, is there anything I can do apart from start over? Thanks for the help. I love my tank, but I'm getting some stuff I didn't want, and didn't realize I was opening myself up too. Thanks!
Sorry to hear that - it just comes with the trade. Just out of curiosity, what type of live rock did you get?

I have the same problem. I bought some Florida live rock and got two mantis shrimps, bristle worms, vermatid snails, crabs, fish eating anemones (supposedly) and aiptasias I decided to set my live rock out and let it dry to rid it of the pests. I also bought some dry rock from bulk reef supply to avoid hitch hikers and made that the majority of my tank's rock.

The worms will be in your sand and rock, but unless they are huge, I wouldn't worry about them. Not sure about the hydroid or starfish, sorry.

Some people say that all the surprises are the best part, but I disagree - not all surprises are good lol. I'd recommend the dry rock from now on. It will eventually go live. You don't need to remove your sand either. And keep in mind, there are some fish out there that are natural pest predators (wrasses are awesome).
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Old 10-05-2011, 01:01 AM   #4
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Thanks for the words of encouragement! I'm not sure what to do, but feel better knowing I'm not alone!
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Theyre probably in the sand. The brittle star is an awsome hitchhiker tho. Im not sure about the pic, buit dont give up!!!!!! Ive lost 3 fish in the past 2 weeks (2 today) from ick and diseases but you just have to keep trying!!!!!! GOOD LUCK!!!!!!
Wow, sorry to hear about your fish! Thanks for the encouragement!
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Sorry to hear that - it just comes with the trade. Just out of curiosity, what type of live rock did you get?

I have the same problem. I bought some Florida live rock and got two mantis shrimps, bristle worms, vermatid snails, crabs, fish eating anemones (supposedly) and aiptasias I decided to set my live rock out and let it dry to rid it of the pests. I also bought some dry rock from bulk reef supply to avoid hitch hikers and made that the majority of my tank's rock.

The worms will be in your sand and rock, but unless they are huge, I wouldn't worry about them. Not sure about the hydroid or starfish, sorry.

Some people say that all the surprises are the best part, but I disagree - not all surprises are good lol. I'd recommend the dry rock from now on. It will eventually go live. You don't need to remove your sand either. And keep in mind, there are some fish out there that are natural pest predators (wrasses are awesome).
Honestly I don't know what kind of live rock I have. Maybe that's part of my problem, not enough of an education in what I'm doing. Good suggestion about using the dry rock, I will try that. And I'm with you... Not all surprises are good!
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+ 1 dry rock all the way. letting it become live in your tank its actually a cool process to watch as the Coraline algae grows throughout the tank's life .
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This may be a dumb question, sorry if it is. Do I need to have live rock in the tank in order to turn the dry rock into live rock? And... If I remove my live rock and sand, do I basically need to start over with the cycling of my tank? What if I leave some sand that I know doesn't have any unwelcome hitchhikers, will I need to re-cycle my tank? Sorry if the questions are dumb, but I'm new to this and want it to be an enjoyable hobby. I don't want to be worried every time I put my hand in the tank. Thanks everyone!
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Hypothecially, if you were to start fresh with Dry rock and Dry sand the way you can get the cycle started is by dosing the tank with pure ammonia or the shrimp method. there are extensive articles available on this forum on how to accomplish that.
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This may be a dumb question, sorry if it is. Do I need to have live rock in the tank in order to turn the dry rock into live rock? And... If I remove my live rock and sand, do I basically need to start over with the cycling of my tank? What if I leave some sand that I know doesn't have any unwelcome hitchhikers, will I need to re-cycle my tank? Sorry if the questions are dumb, but I'm new to this and want it to be an enjoyable hobby. I don't want to be worried every time I put my hand in the tank. Thanks everyone!
You don't need to have live rock in the tank in order to turn the dry rock into live rock. Yes, if you remove your LR and LS, you will need to cycle your tank again. If you decide to leave some sand that doesn't have any hitchhikers etc, it will help cycle the tank faster.

Take a look here for a great guide on fish less cycling, with ammonia:
The (almost) Complete Guide and FAQ to Fishless Cycling

Personally, I went with the "a lot of base rock/ a little live rock" route. So far I love it. It makes me feel better knowing that there's not too many bad hitch hikers in there. It does take a longer time to cycle/cure the rock; but i don't mind. This is one of a few hobbies out there that the longer time you take with it, the better. Hope this helps!
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