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Old 08-12-2004, 08:46 PM   #11
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My friend Kris has kept saltwater tanks for years. His first was a ten gallon. He believes as long as your tang and clown are small enough, you can keep them in the 20 gal until you're better prepared to move them to a larger setup. According to this website, these are the good beginner slatwater fishes- and I believe their prices are decent. You can order a blue tang as little as 1/2'' small for $19.99

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/s...&TopCatId=1926

However, it may be possible to find a larger tank (even on eBay) right away and not have to hassle with changing tanks later on... just a thought to consider.

The main point is that blue tangs are one of the easier fish to care for, and IME I haven't had trouble with the Occellaris clowns. You probably could get a small green sebae anemone, too (which is what I find these clowns prefer) if your lighting is quite bright.
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Old 08-12-2004, 10:23 PM   #12
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I would tend to disagree with most of that. Tangs in general are not easy to care for and definately not a Regal. The minimum tank size recommendation of 75 gal for tangs is done so for a reason. They are not suited for small tanks and should not be considered at all. The only time a tang would do in a tank as small as that is during the QT process. Most will double in size in their first year when purchased small. A sebae anemone would also likely die in such a small water volume. Their simpley isn't enough growing room for either.

This is one of those situation where you need to ask yourself, if this is something you should do, not is this something you can do.

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Old 08-13-2004, 12:05 AM   #13
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I really appreciate ya'll's advice. I think I have decided to go either with saltwater and clowns only, or freshwater. I have been finding some neat looking freshwater fish, like the Blood Red Cichlid, the red tail shark, and some angels. I also like the jelly bean fish, but I think they are died their various colors and I am not sure that it is ethical. I will have to do more research with compatibility. Also, I think that I can always pick up a 55 gal down the road when the used price is right (for a tang). I am still searching for a freshwater clown. The Koi gold fish looks the part, but I understand that goldfish don't mix well with other tropicals due to their biological chemicals. One freshwater clown that I found is called the Clown Loach (see pic). I welcome continued opinions.
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Old 08-13-2004, 12:18 AM   #14
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I have several things and dont mean to be a pain....
I did the same identical thing you are doign when I first got into fish. I thought that SW was to hard, expensive, on and one as I too wanted the fish you and your daughter wants. Now that my daughter turned 2 and now 3, she started asking about Nemo and such. I went from a 55 FW to a 125 SW and its the best thing I have ever done. I wouldnt go back to FW for anything!! you will enjoy SW SO much better!
Secondly, I bought my first regal as I to heard they are easy to keep....they arent! i was in FW for about 2 years and SW in general is quite a bit different. Regals are very needy if you want to keep them healthy and happy. I had my regal in QT from the time that I bought him and he was in there for about 8 weeks. He developed HLLE and had a battle with ick as well. Plus he was NOT happy in the small tank. I kept seeing him get worse and worse color wise each day. Finally I decided to put him in the 125 and now 50-75% of his color is back and the pits from HLLE are doing better. I know it sounds weird, but a LFS and Steve told me that he would do a great deal better if he was in the big tank to where he could swim. So no they are not easy. Plus they have GOT to have a diet of really good food. The HLLE and his color improving is due to large amts of Nori, Vitamin C, Garlic, Selcon and Zoe soaked into his food daily.
Lastly, the tendency to put a regal in a small tank now and then when he starts outgrowing it, its easy to keep putting it off and pretty soon hes outgrown the tank.
Just get into SW with the 20 and get clowns. Once you do, you will immediatley get a bigger tank and then not have to worry about it!! :P
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im perfectly happy with my 16g tank i would like to do sumthing bigger eventually but for right now its fine and the only probly i have with it is keping it cool enough during the hot summer days other then that i dont see it as very hard to take care of and this is my first salt tank so im not an expert
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im perfectly happy with my 16g tank i would like to do sumthing bigger eventually but for right now its fine and the only probly i have with it is keping it cool enough during the hot summer days other then that i dont see it as very hard to take care of and this is my first salt tank so im not an expert
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sry bout that duplicate
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Old 08-11-2011, 04:22 PM   #18
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Hello, how's it going peoples? I wanted to start a 20 gallon salt water tank. my question is how long do I cycle the water and would it be okay to have two clown fish, shrimp and snails?
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