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Old 06-30-2010, 10:41 PM   #11
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fish sleep. night time is when they will do so.
you might not see ammonia and nitrites on store bought test kits with 8 pounds of live rock in a 30 gallon tank. you might see it later when the food you add causes a spike.
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Old 06-30-2010, 11:16 PM   #12
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fish sleep. night time is when they will do so.
you might not see ammonia and nitrites on store bought test kits with 8 pounds of live rock in a 30 gallon tank. you might see it later when the food you add causes a spike.

Ok I am kind of confused on what you are saying now. When should i take the tests and when do i know if it has been cycled then.
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What mr. X is saying is that your tank will cycle to the extent of your LR. That only means it will handle ammonia to the level of lthe two pieces of LR. When your bioload gets greater then that is when you will start to see ammonia and the real cycle would begin.
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What mr. X is saying is that your tank will cycle to the extent of your LR. That only means it will handle ammonia to the level of lthe two pieces of LR. When your bioload gets greater then that is when you will start to see ammonia and the real cycle would begin.
Ok thanks. What is bioload though and im still really confused.
Do you mind just helping me out, what do i do from here can i add more fish or what does this mean
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Bioload is basically the living things in your tank and the level of waste they produce. Or even simpler, the level of waste being produced in your system.
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Do not add anything more until you get more LR and get yourself a liquid test kit(API is good) so that you can measure ammonia, nitrite and nitrates. You will also need a way to measure salinity. The best way is with a refractometer.
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Do not add anything more until you get more LR and get yourself a liquid test kit(API is good) so that you can measure ammonia, nitrite and nitrates. You will also need a way to measure salinity. The best way is with a refractometer.

I have a Hydrometer instead of a refractometer. So what your saying is my tank is cycled but when i want to add more fish i need to get live rock also. Sorry I am just REALLYP confused lol
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Your LR is your filter in a saltwater setup. You do not have enough LR to filter out the ammonia waste in your aquarium for anymore fish. Your ammonia will spike and can't be converted fast enough with the amount of LR you have at the moment. The Fish (bio-load) will produce more waste then your LR (filter) can handle and your fish will die.
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Your LR is your filter in a saltwater setup. You do not have enough LR to filter out the ammonia waste in your aquarium for anymore fish. Your ammonia will spike and can't be converted fast enough with the amount of LR you have at the moment. The Fish (bio-load) will produce more waste then your LR (filter) can handle and your fish will die.

Wow thank you SO much for that. That really cleared things up for me a lot. I have a hang on back filter also does that help any or what. Is there like a formula of how much bioload to live rock i can have how do i know if i have to much bioload but not enough live rock. Thank you so much for putting it in dummy terms for me
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Okay, you will need ~1-2lbs of LR for each gallon of water. ie if you have a 30 gallon tank you will need about 30 to 60 lbs of LR. Now LR is expensive so I would buy 10 lbs of LR and 30-40lbs of "Base Rock" (Dried or dead LR or DIY rock).
The best way to know what's going on in your tank is to test your water parameters, ammonia, nitrite and nitrate along with SG (salinity) and temp.
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