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Old 03-15-2012, 11:23 PM   #361
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My sump split!!!!

So my wife is hanging out this evening on the front porch and comes in and says there is water in the garage. Great I think.... the overflow is busted. I go check it out. There is about 10g of water on the floor. The overflows are working fine.... hhhmmmm.

I noticed there is water around the sump.... plumbing is good. WTH? Then I see it.... a huge crack along the back of the sump. WHAT THE HECK???? The base is square and level, there is only about 3" of sand and it's only about 2/3 full. What did I do wrong?!?!?!!?

What a feaking mess. I spent an hour cleaning up. I was lucky that I just got my QT tank ready for some more fish soon. I quickly put all the LR in the display and moved the cheato into a net. I then scooped all the sand into the 15g and filled it with water and dropped in the extra heater and a power head. I saved another 5g in a bucket as well.

Any thoughts for the rebuild this weekend? I think I'm going to get some of that foam board for the bottom just in case it's off a hair. I don't know what else could have done it.







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Old 03-16-2012, 01:11 AM   #362
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I think I'm going to keep the sump mostly the same when I redo it. The only thing I think I'm going to redo is trim the exiting baffle on the refugium and remove the last baffle.

This is going to lower the sump water level 1" in 2/3 of the sump and cause a little current/disturbance by the small drop off the baffle to the left that will be 1" higher then. I'll move all the baffles over toward the return 1" giving me a tad more room for the skimmer.

I'm also going to put my ATO in the 1st chamber. In the event my overflow dies or clogs, the return chamber will drop dramatically. The ATO will kick in and basically I would have an infinite flood on my hands if I'm out of town or something.
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Old 03-16-2012, 01:44 AM   #363
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i may be wrong but i don't think the ato will work very well in the first chamber because all of your evap will still be coming out of the return chamber.
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Old 03-16-2012, 01:47 AM   #364
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I think you're right..... hhhmmmm
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:43 AM   #365
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I've been thinking about this since I got up and it's very perplexing!!! How can one avoid a flood??? You're right about the water levels... the sump will be the same in the other chambers because of the baffles. The only way to truly have a fail safe is with a pump and 2 floats I think. You need 1 float to turn the pump on and off to control the level and a second if it gets too low somewhere else to shut it off entirely I think. I don't think it's possible with a gravity system like I have setup.
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:51 AM   #366
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If I let myself imagine an ideal setup it includes a hard surface floor and floor drain for the tank area. Even if it were in a living room for example, a catch area with a drain would be great disaster insurance. Because stuff happens. Oh to dream.

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Old 03-16-2012, 11:06 AM   #367
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I forgot to post this with my plan. This was the beginning of the sump.

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Old 03-17-2012, 06:19 PM   #368
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Little update. I grabbed the 29g I was using for my RO water storage and made a quick sump out of it. No baffles so if my overflow fails... let's just say it will be ugly.

I also found a brand new (with stickers on it) 75g Marineland aquarium drilled for $135! I have that at the house now. I hope to sell the current one for around $40/$50. Right now the 75g is drilled in the corners. I'm not sure if I'm going to drill another hole for an emergency overflow or not. Also, if I only use the 1 return I'll have to drop the SCWD and right now it appears everything in the tank is happy with the flow. We'll see.
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Not to be random and slightly off topic but have you ever been to Reef Chief out in Suffolk?
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Old 03-17-2012, 09:07 PM   #370
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I haven't yet just because of the drive but I have heard good things through the club.
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