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Old 05-26-2009, 12:43 AM   #11
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Instant cycle in a bottle. I'm sure it had nothing to do with the live sand and rock. Interesting. I wonder how the nitrifying bacteria in the bottle stay alive.
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Old 06-07-2009, 04:25 PM   #12
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Piggy backing on this thread. I've been trying to fishless cycle my tank for over a month with no nitrite readings at all. My LFS sold me some Tetra safestart and he suggested I do a huge water change to get rid of the ammonia. I have around 4 ppm in there right now.

My questions is, if this Safestart stuff is full of live bacteria, why would I need to do a WC to get rid of the ammonia? Wouldnt that only help the bottle of live bacteria I'm about to add? Please let me know your thoughts. This is my last day off in a while and I'm eager to get started but dont want to waste a 12 dollar bottle of bacteria by doing it wrong.
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:08 PM   #13
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Bump. Ok, I'm tempted to just dump the bottle in the 4 ppm ammonia tonight. Though I'd try one last time to hear from anyone if this is a bad idea.
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:19 PM   #14
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I have heard tetra safe start is similar to bio spira (shelf stabel no need for refrigerator), but i have not used it. i have definately used bio spira and for that i can say for sure it will work.
but go ahead and try dumping it in the 4ppm water and see what happens. u dont have any fish in the tank anyways so u cant kill anything.
if in few days safe start fails u can always do a water change.
i know more expensive way to go but "in the name of science" lol.
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Old 06-08-2009, 02:20 PM   #15
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Well, I dumped the little guys in the tank last night. Tried to get it as close to my filter intake as possible. I cant wait to get home today and see if the readings show anything! I'll post the results in case anyone else ever gets in this boat again.
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Old 06-08-2009, 04:57 PM   #16
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Yah please let us know i am curious about ur results.
i have never used safe start but i have used bio spira (it works make sure its fresh though) and i am wondering if safe start works.
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Old 06-08-2009, 05:39 PM   #17
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I can vouch for Seachem Stability. I had been cycling my tank with fish and it was taking almost five weeks, I was just barley beginning to get nitrites. I started using Stability and was completely cycled within the week.
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Hmm. Not sure how do read the results. The ammonia was between 2 and 4 when I put in the safestart. Its still at 2-4, nitrites are still zero, but nitrates are at 5. I suppose the 5 could be from the bottle? I never bothered testing the nitrates before since I've never seen nitrites. Any thoughts?
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:22 PM   #19
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nitrates are final stage of breaking of ammonia.
so i am sure u had nitrates in ur water unless u have a very efficient nitrate reductor.
after 24 hrs ammonia level still same does suggest that safe start doesnt not work as quick as it suggests if at all.
i am very happy with bio spira's results personally.
quick question: isnt safe start for freshwater only? or does the bottle say saltwater on it too?
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na, just freshwater. To be fair, I think something is preventing my tank from cycling which might also prevent the safestart from working. Its been well over a month with no results. I'm going to just do a big waterchange over the weekend and try to cycle with fish.
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