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Old 05-28-2015, 10:15 PM   #21
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Porcelains are filter feeders so would be one of the last added IMO anyways.
Not too much though IMO.
I have to look hard to find mine as it sits(hangs) in a rock cave that gets good flow.
Never owned a pygmy wrasse or I would add.
There really are no good hermits!
They won't kill your tank too fast to find out for your self but they irritated my corals (killed 2 for sure)and killed snails for no good reason,beside wanting that shell instead of the other 20 offered!)
Maybe I'll show any hermit crabs my multifasciatus tank so they know where they'll end up if they misbehave joking aside, I'll have to think about if I want them or not.

So, with liquid hardware store ammonia like I use in my freshwater tanks, how long would it take to cycle?
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If possible don't cycle marine tank with ammonia!
I know you're saying WTF!
Use a cocktail shrimp in pantyhose or net to cycle instead(just one shrimp!).
Can't say specifically why but salties don't go the ammonia route!
With shrimp you are looking at 10-30 days hopefully?(You know every tank and ... are different)
The pantyhose or net is to keep the shrimp from falling apart and going all over and not being removable.
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If possible don't cycle marine tank with ammonia!
I know you're saying WTF!
Use a cocktail shrimp in pantyhose or net to cycle instead(just one shrimp!).
Can't say specifically why but salties don't go the ammonia route!
With shrimp you are looking at 10-30 days hopefully?(You know every tank and ... are different)
The pantyhose or net is to keep the shrimp from falling apart and going all over and not being removable.
That's.... odd? Didn't expect that one. I guess I'll try the cocktail shrimp method lol.

Corals are complicated and they're bending my mind! I'm waiting for that "click" moment where it starts making sense and I can ask some real questions.
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Anybody know if this thing is any good?

Aquatic Life RO Buddie 3-Stage Reverse Osmosis System at PETCO

Or this one: http://www.amazon.com/Countertop-Rev...+filter+system
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Brand new 10g saltwater help

I have about 4 in my 10g, one blue leg ,2 Scarlets, and one white one and I never had any trouble with them. Sure they crawl through my GSP sometimes but it always comes right back out. No trouble to the snails either, though in those I recommend to skip as they starve easily in a 10g. An my wrasse isn't a pacer, just a really active bugger who does loops an such through live rock


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If possible don't cycle marine tank with ammonia!
I know you're saying WTF!
Use a cocktail shrimp in pantyhose or net to cycle instead(just one shrimp!).
Can't say specifically why but salties don't go the ammonia route!
With shrimp you are looking at 10-30 days hopefully?(You know every tank and ... are different)
The pantyhose or net is to keep the shrimp from falling apart and going all over and not being removable.
I would love some facts to back this up. I used ammonia to cycle my 75 reef and had no problems at all. It is easy to control the level of ammonia and gives you very strict control. Is this just a case of repeating what "someone" said? You are able to get to exactly 4ppm (which is the level you want when cycling) and then monitor levels and add precisely back to 4ppm when it starts getting processed. Worked perfectly and took about 2 weeks with lots of live rock in place. I highly recommend pure ammonia to cycle. Just my .02.
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So will one pygme wrasse be acceptable?


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No !!! not any wrasse
wrasses need lots of room to swim as they are very active min tank size would be 30g
a 10g tank would be like a sardine can for a wrasse and it would most likely be more apt to jump out
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A friend of mine suggested a pistol shrimp and a shrimp goby. Would that work? It would be pretty cool to have that setup.

Specifically looking right now at Wheeler's shrimp goby, Amblyeleotris wheeleri, and a pistol shrimp Alpheus sp.
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^yup, actually that would be pretty good stocking for a 10g


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