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Old 09-29-2010, 06:44 PM   #1
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Can I put a 30G tank on this cabinet?

Hello, moving my tank off of the floor and onto my kitchen counter (hopfefully.)

It's a 30 gallon which is 350 lbs full. The tank will not be completely full, maybe up to about 4-5" from the top. Also there will be no subtrate just a couple pieces of PVC and 1 small piece of live rock.

Here are some pics of the cabinet. Last pic is an alternative that I have in the bedroom.
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Old 09-29-2010, 06:45 PM   #2
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Alternative:

I should also mention that the tank will go over 2 of the supports as I will be putting it close to the edge, so it will be going over one of the supports on the edge and the one in the middle (for the kitchen cabinet.)

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Old 09-29-2010, 07:01 PM   #3
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1 more thing, I weight about 220ish and I can sit on it, pick myself up about 2-3", and drop all my weight on it and it doesn't seem to budge.... I think that tells me it should probably be ok??
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Old 09-29-2010, 07:09 PM   #4
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I would personally put the tank where you want it, fill it up, add whatever your going to add minus the livestock, and wait overnight to see if the "stand" dips down in the middle or if it just seems different in general. Just me though
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Old 09-29-2010, 07:12 PM   #5
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Thanks for the reply!

Only issue is I'm not sure where I would put my puffer while the tank is sitting in the new spot?

I supposed I could keep him in a tupperware container/bucket for the night but he has ich and I want to avoid stressing as much as possible.
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First thing I'd look at is simply this: "Would the stand hold the empty tank if you removed all glue and nails/screws and fasteners?"

Glue and screws should only hold the wood together, all structual support should be from the wood itself. If fasteners are holding up the weight thats a bad thing. It should be the wood holding up the tank, and fasteners just to make sure the structure doesn't fall apart.

Often when stress testing something designed to hold weight you would submit the structure to double the weight/stress it would have under normal conditions. If it can hold double the weight without showing signs of distress then it should be good. This method is used for safety ropes, cables, SCUBA tanks, etc. Considering the impact of the stand collapsing I would use the same technique.

Just make sure you inspect the stand well to make sure the extra weight doesn't cause some unseen damage.

A quick easy way to stress test, get a couple friends to stand on top with you, just make sure you won't hurt yourself if the thing collapses.

Now for your pictures specifically, the first counter looks flimsy, made of particle board, without proper support on the bottom. Just from what I can see I'd guess it would be a bad choice.

The dresser looks solid. The framing inside for the drawers add extra strength. I'd want to see it without the drawers but from the outside I think it looks good. If it was a choice between those two, i don't think I'd even try kitchen counter.
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Old 09-29-2010, 08:58 PM   #7
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Thanks for the help!!!!!
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do backflips on it LOL, the way i tested if my desk could hold a 20g high ( 225lbs + gravel, etc equals to about 230-235lbs all together ) is that I ( 160lbs ) and my friend ( 140lbs ) stood on it, it also held my friend jumping haha, so maybe thats a good way =]
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Yes, I definately like the dresser much better. If it does fail it should sag instead of collapse. The only thing that occurs to me is the lack of support in the middle, but the weight looks like it's well distributed on the sides and the middle support is more for framing the drawers. It also looks very well supported laterally. The kitchen cabinet looks like it would collapse if you pushed it too hard from the side.

I'd still grab a couple/three friends and stand on top to make sure it can handle 400-500 lbs without distress, but overall I think it looks good and you have a winner.

The kitchen cabinet might work in the beginning, but particle board disintegrates if it gets wet. You're asking for problems trying to support an aquarium with particle board.
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