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Old 10-16-2013, 05:19 PM   #271
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The gold rim is the same as a white cheek tang . I have had mine for over a year and a half and it is one of my favorites . More on the difficult side compared to a yellow tang and very closely related to a powder brown tangs. Once established they do not like any new fish being added but after a few months they calm down.
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Old 10-16-2013, 05:28 PM   #272
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lol, sniper, not ready just YET! lol

So in regards tot he dsb, how should I work it if I were to use the existing sand? WOuld I transport it with the sand in the bottom and then what? Wont all the nitrates and other nasties be released with all the moving around?

I'm not sure I mentioned this about the stand choices, but the black one is from a fish store and is about 36 inches tall while the walnut set is about 30 inches tall. The ASM skimmer thats included looks to just fit under the stand. If I were to upgrade the skimmer at a future point I was thinking that stand would be too short.

And a thought on the future fish, I was thinking of getting the black tang, NOT the $700 one but the fold rimmed black tang that the site with the 20k fish was on. Then maybe a sailfin locally

Here is the black tang I'm thinking of

Gold Rimmed Surgeonfish

And does anyone know anything about these tangs? Can't say that I've seen any locally

Mata Tang-(2")
The gold rim looks great! It would really eye catcher!
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Old 10-16-2013, 05:35 PM   #273
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So the gold rimmed is aggressive then? I was thinking of adding all the tangs at once after I add the happy not aggressive fish. Or is he too aggressive do you think
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Old 10-16-2013, 05:46 PM   #274
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I wouldnt consider them aggressive but I wouldn't consider them peaceful either.
The most aggression I have seen was the first month or so after I added a new fish and while he was pretty mean he did calm down after a bit. I think in your situation it would be fine . I added more fish after the white cheek has been in the tank for a year so he was well established .
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Old 10-16-2013, 05:47 PM   #275
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My tangs all spar all the time. The episodes are short lived and somebody always retreats. That's surgeonfish for you. The looser needs a safe place to get away to fight again another day. It's when they get pinned down or chased into a too small crack that scales get damaged.
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:21 PM   #276
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So then am I just lucky with my tangs? The three never ever fight lol. They do not tolerate any larger fish going in the tank though. If its small like the dotty back they dont seem to mind or even the melanurus wrasse when I added him. Anything near their size tho and they are nasty. lol

Any thoughts on the deep sand bed guys?
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Old 10-16-2013, 08:19 PM   #277
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I've only heard bad stories about trying to reuse sand an I think it would be especially tough with a dsb. I could be wrong but there's probably more crap to worry about than the shallow bed. That said having to replace that much sand, few hundred pounds I'm guessing, on the other hand with a big build it would be great to save wherever possible and you did mention taking it slow you could let it fully cycle. It's not like you have to get your fish in there right away.
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I am cheap, so I would wash it really well and use it over. There is no difference in using the old sand or aragonite that is well washed and new sand. Both will build up bacterial fast. I suggest a bed of 2-4" banked into deeper areas for sand sifters to work. I have my sand moving a lot from the engineer goby, wrasses and others.
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I've gone the sand rewashing route in the past and it almost killed me. Took sooo long and it really bothered my back. I can get sand for $8 per 40 lbs brand new aragonite. Should I just spend the $40 bucks or so or go through rewashing. I thought maybe I could just move it with the sand in place and then leave it to settle. Is that not the case?
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Well $40 is def worth just starting fresh but it would be nice to not have to clean or dispose of existing sand so I say go for it. I have no research to back this up but I say you leave just enough water barely be cover the sand so it's still really saturated. You'll obviously have a release of all kinds of nasty sh1t but I'm sure a lot of the "life" in the sand will remain just put some water lr and power heads in there right away.
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