Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Saltwater and Reef > Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 06-06-2010, 09:02 AM   #1
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: England
Posts: 55
Changing to new tank.

Im upgrading to a 50 gallon tank from my 25 gallon nano. When ive cycled and ready to change over I was going to get a further cleanup crew for a week or so before putting my 2 clowns, small yellow tang and royal gamma into my new tank.
1, Can I put them in all together.
2, what about my bubble tipped anemone. Will he survive the change .

Ive got 20 kilos of new live rock and will be putting in the 10 kilos of rock from my nano.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	DSC00151.jpg
Views:	50
Size:	62.8 KB
ID:	23992  
__________________

__________________
ducati2242 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2010, 09:16 AM   #2
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
mr_X's Avatar


 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Fairless Hills, Pa.
Posts: 17,895
Send a message via MSN to mr_X
i would cycle the larger tank with the new rock and if you don't see an ammonia spike, use some other source of ammonia, like a piece of raw shrimp. after the cycle, you can add the entire 25 gallon tank all at once.
this is what i would do if the new rock was uncured. if it's out of a local tank and is already cured, you can add everything all at once on the same day. you shouldn't see a spike. a diatom bloom perhaps, but nothing dangerous. yes, everything should survive the transfer.
__________________

__________________
thanks,
Doug
mr_X is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2010, 09:32 AM   #3
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: England
Posts: 55
The rock is un-cycled. Only came into the country 10 days ago. showing quite a bit of life and quite purple. Ive added the raw shrimp 1 week ago.At the moment my readings are .
Ph 8.2
ammonia. 3
nitrites. 1
nitrates. 5
salt. 1.026
Temp. 25.5c
Ive just put my second does of special blend in first being 60 ml second 40ml.

Everything is brand new and running a sump with cheato . 1 week old.
__________________
ducati2242 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2010, 10:34 AM   #4
AA Team Emeritus
 
cmor1701d's Avatar


 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Belle Mead, NJ
Posts: 7,814
Don't bother testing pH during the cycle. Put the new uncured LR in the tank now. It should cause another spike in ammonia. Look for that, then for the nitrites to start rising again, fall to 0, while the nitrates rise.

When the tank is cycled do a large (30% - 50%) water change. Leave the tank alone for about a week and test again, but this time for everythng. If everything looks ok, move the other tank over.
cmor1701d is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2010, 10:40 AM   #5
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: England
Posts: 55
Sorry I may have described what I have done badly. That is the un-cured live rock in my tank and these are the water parameters after 1 week of curing .
__________________
ducati2242 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2010, 01:14 AM   #6
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Crepe's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 2,332
I don't get how you people put up with the smell from curing live rock. But good luck, you're on your way. If you can I would try to save any interesting critters that you find on the new LR and put it in your nano. Only introduce your nem after everything is cured and cycled. And even then, drip acclimate, very very slowly.
__________________
Crepe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2010, 09:08 AM   #7
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Krypt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Holley, NY
Posts: 752
Quote:
Originally Posted by ducati2242 View Post
Sorry I may have described what I have done badly. That is the un-cured live rock in my tank and these are the water parameters after 1 week of curing .
If the rock was uncured when you started, the die off from the curing process will be enough to fully cycle your tank. Once Amm. and Nitrites reach 0 and you do the 30-50% water change your good to go to start moving things over.

If you plan on breaking down the nano and moving all your LR from that tank into your new one then you can just move everything at once. If you do not plan on using your old LR then you will have to add things over the course of a few weeks to allow your bio filter in the new tank to catch up to your bio-load. If your doing the latter, add the nem last. If that thing gets stressed out and dies, it'll be like dropping a nuke in your tank. Good luck with the new tank!
__________________
"If your wife ever asks how much something was for your tank, just tell her you got it on sale and you had to have it! She'll understand"

-Chuck
Krypt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2010, 09:40 PM   #8
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
mr_X's Avatar


 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Fairless Hills, Pa.
Posts: 17,895
Send a message via MSN to mr_X
i have never dripped an anemone, and have never lost one to an established tank.
__________________
thanks,
Doug
mr_X is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2010, 07:19 AM   #9
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Krypt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Holley, NY
Posts: 752
Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_X View Post
i have never dripped an anemone, and have never lost one to an established tank.
Count yourself among the lucky.
__________________
"If your wife ever asks how much something was for your tank, just tell her you got it on sale and you had to have it! She'll understand"

-Chuck
Krypt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2010, 07:09 AM   #10
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
mr_X's Avatar


 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Fairless Hills, Pa.
Posts: 17,895
Send a message via MSN to mr_X
i might agree with you if it was just a few specimens, but i've kept probably 100+ anemones and didn't drip a single one. i was a retailer for a few years.
__________________

__________________
thanks,
Doug
mr_X is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
changing, tan

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Changing Substrate in tank - How? New Cycle? David14259 Freshwater & Brackish - Getting Started 4 02-08-2007 08:30 AM
changing tank with baby guppies in it lovefishies Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion 5 07-10-2006 12:16 PM
changing nursery tank into new home mrspughster Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion 4 05-20-2006 01:11 AM
changing water without changing temperature hashbaz Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion 5 10-31-2004 10:51 PM
Changing to Cichlid tank Xabien Cichlid Discussion 9 01-27-2004 08:46 AM







» Photo Contest Winners








Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:07 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.