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Old 12-21-2007, 08:47 PM   #1
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clean up crew suggestions

Ok if you owned a 46 gallon tank with 80+ pounds of live rock and very fine powdery white sand. What would your clean up crew consist of. Knowing what all of you would choose and the amount of each would greatly help me to build the right clean up crew setup for my tank.

Also what is the average life span of a snail. Do they usually die within a year?????????????????????????????????????????//
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Old 12-21-2007, 09:42 PM   #2
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Let's see... in my 46g tank with about 60-70 lbs rock and medium grain sand...

20-25 little nassarius snails
1 small fighting conch
2 large tongan nassarius snail
3 large turbo snails
4 small astrea snails
8-10 medium trochus snails
tons 'o baby trochus snails
2 scarlet hermit crabs
1 blue legged hermit crab
1 skunk cleaner shrimp
1 peppermint shrimp

I have no idea what the normal life span of a snail is. Mine normally die from landing upside down and not getting righted before Mr. Tongan Nassarius snail comes and has a snack. But the trochus snails in my tank reproduce like mad so the only snails I've had to "rebuy" have been nassarius. I think I only have one or two of my original 10-15 trochus snails. The rest are offsprings and I have more generations in the wings!

I'd skip the turbos, and go for trochus, nassarius (big and little), and a few astreas.
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Old 12-21-2007, 11:58 PM   #3
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Thanks again Kurt once again the most helpfull aquarist I know.
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I agree with Kurt. I bought bumblebee snails and they all died pretty quickly (watch these, as they will eat other snails). I like nassis, cerith, and Margarita Snails. They all have been in my tank for over a year. I also like the fighting conch, pistol shrimp, cleaner shrimp, fire shrimp. I am not a huge fan of hermits and only have about 3 in my 55G. Make sure you have larger empty shells so they can move into it, when they grow. I also like the longspined urchin (I don't have one, yet) but I have a pencil and pincushion urchin in my 55. If you go with the pencil, make sure your rocks are secured, they sometimes like to wedge inbetween rocks. The pincushion will pick up things like snails, small rocks, chunks of algae and any other thing it can carry.
Most importantly, start with a small crew, especially if your tank is new, since there won't be much for them to graze on.
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I prefer snails and shrimp with NO hermits (little devils). I've heard anywhere from 1 to 5 per gallon. I think 1 per gallon is about right with the majority being nassarius snails, followed by cerith snails.

Astrea Snail-most common of all saltwater tank snails. They are excellent algae eaters and will forage all over the rock, sand, and glass. These guys fall very easily and can not right themselves up and die easily.

Banded Trochus Snail - Large snails that are excellent algae eaters although are very slow about it. These guys have a hard time picking themselves up as well if stranded in the middle of the sand.

Bumblebee snails- Not very hardy. Marginal algae eaters, but more of a detritus grazer. They can prey on other snails and sand bed critters.

Cerith Snails (Cortez) - Good algae and detritus eaters that forage rock, glass, and sand. Some can pick themselves up and some cant.

Cerith Snails (White)- Good algae and detritus eaters that seem to stay in the sand more than the cortez, but can be found on the rock and glass. Once again, some can pick themselves up and others cant. These guys are good sand bed snails to shift the substrate around.

Fighting Conch Snails - These guys are all about the sand bed and are very cool to watch. They usually dont get flipped over, but if they do, they can kick around and turn themselves back upright.They very hardy too. One per 2 sq. ft. of sand.

Mexican Turbo Snails - super fast grazer that will knock out some algae in no time. They mostly stay on rocks and glass, but will work the top of the sandbed too. These may be cold water snails that dont do so well in a reef. But, once they are adjusted... they seem to be very hardy and active. Mine are going on two years and are huge now. I originally got them for a hair algae problem. They do tend to knock over anything that is not glued in place (corals, clams, rocks, etc.)

Nassarius Snails - They mostly stay in the sand, but will sometimes make short trips up the glass. They are mainly detritus eaters and do an excellent job cleaning and shifting the sand. I think these are also some of the most hardy snails out there. These guys can flip themselves upright very easily and quickly. They are fun to watch as they come bursting out of the sand bed at feeding time.

Nerite Snails - Mostly a rock and glass snail that are all about the algae. The dont move very fast but the areas they have been in are clean as a bell. These guys like to crawl out of the water. Mine usually end p in the sump where they can get above the water line and come back down when they want to.

Stomatella Snails - They are supposed to reproduce very well. No personal experience w/ them.

Strombus Snails (Strombus maculatus (sp?))these are excellent snails that reproduce very well. They seem to be mostly sandbed snails and will occasionally make there way up to about the 1-3 inch line of rock work. I assume they are mostly detritus eaters.
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Old 12-22-2007, 02:14 PM   #6
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Thank you cmor1701d Very helpful.
I too have experienced devilish crabs. I noticed most of the reef cleaner packages that are sold have a lot of hermit crabs. Anybody know where to find a snail cleaner package sold online?? My tank is about 6 months old and has plenty of algae to graze on.
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In my tank I have the astreas and margarita snails for the glass as well as the narasirus snails for the sand. As far as the sand being kept clean I have found that bullet gobies are the best and they keep it turned over and white. I have several types of hermits and several shrimp in the tank as well as 1 spiney lobster. Dont get the lobster if you are planning to get him for scenery as I`ve only seen him maybe 5 times in 6 yrs.
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There are several places that will custom make snail only packages or you could try http://www.bluezooaquatics.com/produ...d=1612&cid=313
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Is there a difference between the queen conch and the fighting conch???? the BlueZooAquatics website wants 40 for shipping totalling 100 dollars plus a bullet goby @18.95 I am going to see if my LFS can comp the prices without shipping and maybe skip the bumblebee snails.. thanks again for all of the help it is greatly appreciated.
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The queen conch can get HUGE. The fighting conch only grows to about 3".
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