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Old 06-06-2003, 12:18 AM   #11
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Thanks for the encouragement...I am going to the DSB this weekend...and the Damsels will soon be "store credit"

Here is the picture of the tank I took tonight...You can see the brown "algae" I was referring too at the top. I hope you like it, I think it came out OK for my first attempt. I got the rock for $1.00 a pound..



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Old 06-06-2003, 01:00 AM   #12
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you are looking at diatoms. almost every tank going through the beginning of the complete cycling have these. It shows you are in the right path. they will eventually go away but not completely 100 percent.
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Old 06-08-2003, 03:11 PM   #13
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Re: Couple of basic questions from a newbie...(Added Pic)

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I have 2 2-striped damsels, and 1 fiji damsel in the tank now, all are doing very good, very healthy and eating well

My question is, I am starting to see some algea growth on coral that is closer to the top of the tank, kind of a reddish-brown, on about 3 pieces, including the one from the neighbors tank. Also, the CC substrate is starting to get some darkening on the top.

what else is in the tank? snails, crabs? i would definately have some sort of algae control. I also am in agreeance about ditching the damsels, I got rid of my 3 starter damsels as soon as I could, and am really happy about doing it.
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Old 06-09-2003, 04:34 PM   #14
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No, no algae control yet, and as discussed above, what I originally thought was an algae bloom was simply Diatoms. Does anone have a suggestion of what would be good cleaners in a FO tank? With CC substrate? or with a DSB? Would they be the similar?

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Old 06-09-2003, 07:50 PM   #15
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I got a lot of red legged hermits and Astrae snails... The red legs are really good with diatoms and other algae and the snails clean the sides...

I have a 90 gallon so I aim for about 25 hermits and 30 snails... In my opinion you need more snails... but.. I leave the algae on the back of my tank alone and clean the front and sides only... They eat from everywhere and the red legs leave each other and the snails alone.
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Thanks!

Well, based on your advice, I went and purchased 100# of southdown sand, and another 20# of Live Arogonite Reef Sand to seed the DSB with. I now have about 4-5" DSB and I couldn't be happier. It is so much of a visual improvement over the CC (which was a PITA to get all out!) I am very happy. I am going to keep the Damsels until the tank is finished cycling, then turn them in on some more passive inhabitants. I talked to LFS and they will take them for credit. I cannot wait for the water to completely clear up so I can enjoy the new substrate.

My next question turns to the cleaner crew, I would like some more suggestion on what the best crew to start with would be, and whether or not I should introduce them into the tank before the cycle is complete....as always, thanks!
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What are the water parameters at this time?

I'd say get rid of the damsels now, because you WILL have to break down the tank to get them and it will mess up your aquascaping. You don't need damsels to cycle the tank... you can use raw shrimp from the seafood section... Just some friendly advice...

Post some pics if you can
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well as a fello MICHIGANDER I would like to say welcome and thank you you had them anser some of my ????? too
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Thank you for the welcome!! I have learned alot reading past posts and articles so far. One thing I now realize is the bagged "reef sand" really doesn't supply any critters, just bacteria. I am going to the LFS today to get about 5 pounds of real LIVE SAND, hopefully with a large variety of DSB fauna. Do you think 5# will be enough to seed the DSB?

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PH 8.0
Nitrite .15
Ammonia around .25-.35
Temp - Constant 79deg
Nitrate - 0
1.021 Salinity

I also read that seeding the DSB will eventually result in my dead rock becoming live again...This is true? Excellent!
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As for cleaners...I prefer mainly hermits and snails. When the water is right, add some hermites (scarlet and/or blue-leg) and snails (cerith, and/or astrea, and/or turbos). When you add your fish, I would add a serpent star as well. He will take care of left over food that will become a nitrate problem if left alone. You might look for a good "cleaner" package from some OLFS or your LFS.
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