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Old 03-08-2007, 05:46 PM   #31
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if you're getting something other than the bright yellow after adding the first bottle
I'm getting a dark yellow (the 160 ppm) after the first reagent, did the test 2x same result. I thought it was the test kit as well, so I tested the QT and it was less than 0, after running the full test.
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If your nh3 levels are truly off the chart then using Purigen for a couple of days to lower your nh3 to 2-3 ppm would be fine IMO.
I had the very same thought and picked it up today.
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And 10ppm nitrates is something you're probably not going to want in your "fresh" water
Yep, something else to check into. If my liverock lives then that'll be the next investment.
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FWIW I'm not familiar w/ AP test, but sometimes high nitrite levels will interfer with results of nitrate tests.
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Old 03-08-2007, 09:58 PM   #33
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Glory be! The nh3 is starting to come down! Still high, between 4-8ppm, now on the chart.
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I'm not familiar w/ AP test, but sometimes high nitrite levels will interfer with results of nitrate tests.
I did not know that...but I it makes sense.
Question: I'm not getting alot of scum in the protein skimmer right now. I did for the first few days, but now I'm getting alot of foam. I have not changed any of the settings. Could this be due to the nh3 coming down?
Another question: Does anyone know if ich could survive these hellacious conditions? Since they are an invert I just thought maybe they couldn't live through this cycle.
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New skimmers hardly skim well for the first few days/weeks. They need to "break in" a little, and the instructions that came with your skimmer should tell you for generally how long that will take. If it is skimming a lot of foam now, sounds like it's working well.

Ich is pretty resilient to most things, and while I'm not an ich expert, I would say that it could, yes.
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Have no clue if ich would survive the high levels of nh3 (though I doubt it) but they do need a fish host to survive and since it takes a couple of weeks to cycle your tank then your tank should be ich free if there was any present in the first place.

Just make sure you QT your stock to keep from ever introducing ich (or other parasites) to your main.
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I did (still do?) have ich for 5 months. I QTd the fish and run the tank fallow for 1 month, put them back in and 2 days later they broke out. I've done everything, hypo, KickIch, you name it . So I decided to run the DT fallow for 2 months and do some changes while fish were back in the QT, hence I changed out the substrate, dropped the salinity to 1.009 to help kill ich (massive water change), added live rock. Doing the huge water change (75%) basically killed the biological filter and adding the LR brought me to my original question of curing the LR and cycling.
Oh, and believe me, there is NO bigger proponent of a QT than ME!! I have 2 sets of QT equipment.
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I believe the recommended fishless time for ich is 6-8 weeks... 8 weeks to be sure. So adding your fish back in after 4 weeks and them getting ich would seem to point to that time frame. Since you've been fishless for 8 weeks now, you should be OK. The hyposalinity (SG 1.008) should do it in also.
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