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Old 11-08-2013, 04:15 PM   #11
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Can you also tell me why my skimmer is skimming gunk?
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Old 11-08-2013, 06:08 PM   #12
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Pieces of shrimp maybe? Depends on what you mean by gunk. Everything in the collection cup is gunk to me.
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Old 11-08-2013, 08:52 PM   #13
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Ok thanks for your input basically if ammonia goes through the roof should I then take one out?
I used 2 raw shrimp for my 75gal
I didn't turn lights on at all or didn't run a skimmer during the cycle .
There is nothing in there you want to take skim out yet .
Leave the shrimp in .
Once the beneficial bacteria grows it will convert the ammonia to nitrites as it's supposed to,
If your tank can't process 1 shrimp how would it ever establish enough Bacteria to properly process the bio load of a stocked reef .
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Ok, ammonia is 0.25 everything else is at 0. Ph 8.3. Is there a chance it's cycled before prawns went in?
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Ok, ammonia is 0.25 everything else is at 0. Ph 8.3. Is there a chance it's cycled before prawns went in?
If ammonia is detected it's still in the first stage .
There is NO way it will cycle or start to cycle without a ammonia source .
A constant ammonia source that will spike and it will fall as nitrites are detected .
Google " fish less cycle for saltwater" the extra research will benefit you in the long run .
It's a lot to understand how nature works .
Even after the first cycle if you aren't patient enough and stock too much too fast you will start a cycle again .
The cycle is all about building and establishing a colony of beneficial bacteria to sufficiently convert bad bacteria to good .
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Would there not have been enough good bacteria in live sand and live rock as all in all tank has been cycling for 22 days and prawns been in for 4 days? Getting confused as lfs I got rock and sand off said , if I have 0 nitrite and 0 nitrate it could have cycled without the prawns. They also said that it will keep showing low ammonia because of prawns and to take them out and do a water change. Thinking of giving up already as it seems I can't trust the shop! Also there was a small bag of fluid stuff that came with sand would that of been the good bacteria? Take into account that I did not do any water checks for the first two weeks? Please let me know what you think? Thanks
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Old 11-09-2013, 10:54 AM   #17
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Would there not have been enough good bacteria in live sand and live rock as all in all tank has been cycling for 22 days and prawns been in for 4 days? Getting confused as lfs I got rock and sand off said , if I have 0 nitrite and 0 nitrate it could have cycled without the prawns. They also said that it will keep showing low ammonia because of prawns and to take them out and do a water change. Thinking of giving up already as it seems I can't trust the shop! Also there was a small bag of fluid stuff that came with sand would that of been the good bacteria? Take into account that I did not do any water checks for the first two weeks? Please let me know what you think? Thanks
After the cycle you should test
0 for ammonia
And 0 for nitrites
When it's finished you will have high nitrates
That's when you do a water change .
I'm sure you will hear it more then once .
Your local fish store are sales men and paid to sell you what ever they can .
Everyone has a different opinion.
When you are finished the cycle you should be able to drop a shrimp or prawn in and ammonia will drop to 0 within 24hrs
Live sand and live rock .
When they say live they are referring to beneficial bacteria .
In order for the cycle to start you need to have a constant ammonia source and maintain that high level of ammonia until it's consumed and transformed to nitrite .
Then you will experience high nitrite till it changes to nitrate .
When ammonia and nitrite are both 0 do a large water change and you're set to go . You can purchase nitrifying bacteria to speed it up
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Old 11-09-2013, 11:04 AM   #18
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Thanks for that it's much appreciated and I'm going to do what you and everybody else says. Should I switch my skimmer off for now?
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Thanks for that it's much appreciated and I'm going to do what you and everybody else says. Should I switch my skimmer off for now?
You can leave it on but it's not doing anything cause there isn't anything established yet for it to remove .
Leave lights off too so you don't have a problem with a algae bloom .
Patients is the key .
Do not rush anything and let nature do what it's supposed to .
I think if you rush or alter how nature works you are setting yourself up for disaster
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Yeah I'm not going too rush it's just it was getting confused by what lfs were saying . I really appreciate all of your advice. Thank you. Will let you know how it goes. Again cheers
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