Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Saltwater and Reef > Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 05-03-2012, 07:54 PM   #1
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Retired_AF's Avatar

POTM Champion
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Gastonia, NC
Posts: 738
Question Cycling in progress.... Did I screw it up???

I am currently at day 20 of my fishless cycle.

At day 15 I started finding life in the tank. I found some stomatella snails, some tiny red feather dusters, an aiptasia (now deceased), a couple small white feathery things too small to take a pic of (possibly anemones, but they dont seem to move or retract when disturbed), and 2 small bristle worms (good ones, I checked).

Things have been progressing well but suddenly, 2 days ago, my nitrates skyrocketed from 0 to 40(Tuesday) to 160 yesterday. Today I did a 20% water change and retested everything.

I have been dosing ammonia daily to keep it at 2.0.

After the water change today I ran the tests and these are my results:
SG - 1.0245
Ammonia - 0.25
pH - 8.4
Nitrites - 2.0
Nitrates - 160, possibly more since the red was VERY dark. I retested after recleaning the test tube to make sure it was accurate.
Calcium - 460
dKH - 6

I am currently making more RO/DI so I can make salt water to do another PWC to get the Nitrates down, hopefully by Saturday.

I noticed that the Nitrate numbers jumped the day after I dosed the tank with Purple Up to stimulate the coraline spreading to my dry rock and adding macroalgae to the sump.

I know these readings normally fluctuate as the cycling process progresses, but the Nitrates numbers seem extreme. Did I mess up by using the Purple Up?
Should I continue dosing the ammonia? I have no livestock in the tank other than what is listed above so I am thinking yes, but I would like the Nitrites and especially Nitrates to drop some before I do.

Opinions??
__________________

__________________
Jim
Why do I love fish? Because every time I stare into the little world I have created for them, every problem I have just floats away....
Retired_AF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2012, 11:20 PM   #2
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
hultsmark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Bandera, TX
Posts: 16
Send a message via AIM to hultsmark
My opinion is you are doing fine. Your water changes will help with the levels and you are close to being able to add starter organisms. I waited a month and then added some damsels to keep me busy and the system going.
__________________

__________________
hultsmark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2012, 06:44 AM   #3
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
OscarFan76's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 340
Sounds normal to me. I would back off on the ammo dosing for a couple of days and see if the nitrites go to 0. Sounds like your cycle is almost complete.

You will probably need a big water change to put a dent in the nitrates.
__________________
OscarFan76 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2012, 02:12 PM   #4
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Retired_AF's Avatar

POTM Champion
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Gastonia, NC
Posts: 738
Today I did a 25% water change. I let the tank circulate for almost 2 hours then ran the tests again. Todays results:
SG - 1.024
Ammonia - 0
Nitrites - 2.0
Nitrates - 40
pH - 8.2
Temp - 82

The nitrates came down A LOT although not enough to suit me, nitrites came down some but still too high.

I havent dosed any ammonia the past 2 days and am thinking I need to put SOME in there to keep the bacteria alive.

I havent dosed any Purple Up since the nitrites spiked. I have noticed that I have hair algae starting to grow. I cleaned off the glass but there is still some on the back, the overflow and the circulation pumps. Hopefully getting the nitrates down, decreasing lights and dropping temp some will help.

I turned off the metal halides until further needed. Now just the actinics and moon lights are working.

I turned off the heaters, hoping to cool the water down a bit.

I'm making RO/DI water again, thinking I am going to need to do another 25% water change, hopefully on Monday.

Anyone have any other ideas?
__________________
Jim
Why do I love fish? Because every time I stare into the little world I have created for them, every problem I have just floats away....
Retired_AF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2012, 06:02 PM   #5
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Retired_AF's Avatar

POTM Champion
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Gastonia, NC
Posts: 738
I'm feeling very confused... I just completed my 3rd PWC in the past 4 days, total of 70 gallons changed in a 75 gallon water column...

Today I did another 20% water change.
Ammonia is still 0
Nitrites is still at 2.0
Nitrates is still at 40

This PWC did NOTHING to aleviate my NO2 and NO3 issue...
Do I still need to do more water changes or will these levels drop from here?
__________________
Jim
Why do I love fish? Because every time I stare into the little world I have created for them, every problem I have just floats away....
Retired_AF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2012, 07:25 PM   #6
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Hondatek's Avatar



POTM Champion
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 3,969
Don't worry about water changes unless you have a ph crash . Other than that I see nothing you should worry about unless of course you have fish
__________________
Feed your Filtration
Give it to Porc Chop he'll eat anything!!!!!
"This is my tank and these other fish just live in it"
^ Quoted from Porc Chop^
Hondatek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2012, 07:58 PM   #7
Giant Clam Addict
Community Admin
 
Sniperhank's Avatar



POTM Champion
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Summerville, Pennsylvania
Posts: 18,549
If you are cycling there is no reason to do water changes unless you had livestock in the tank. You are costing yourself money and making the cycle take longer.
Sniperhank is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2012, 08:25 PM   #8
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
OscarFan76's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 340
That was my fault. I noticed nitrites dropping one one of my tanks when fishless cycling when my nitrates were through the roof. After a single pwc everything was in range and stayed that way. If you are continuing to see nitrite after your pwc then it is just a waiting game.

Unless I'm mistaken, the nitrates won't come down unless you have something that reduces them like a refrigum, etc. PWCs are the way to reduce nitrate after your cycle. You are better off doing one large one after the cycle instead of several small ones. Example if you are at 80ppm and do a 50% then you should be at 40ppm. If you do 25 & 25 then the first would get you to 60 but the 2nd would only take you to 45ppm.
__________________

__________________
OscarFan76 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
cycling

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off








» Photo Contest Winners








Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:12 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.