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Old 02-10-2005, 09:53 PM   #1
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Cycling within 2 days???

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I'm new to this message board but yesterday my boyfriend bought me a 40 gal. tank. I had a 20 gal. reef tank for about 3 years but i moved last year and decided to sell everything. Anyway, I'm no expert but yesterday we went back up to our fish store to get the rest of what we needed to set it up. We got 35 lbs of live rock, 2 of the bags of argonite sand and we ended up buying the water from them too. I'm not sure what type of water it is but the owner's son said it would be ready for fish in about 2 days. Does this sound right? The last time I set up a tank it took atleast a month to cycle. What type of water would reduce the cycle time so dramatically? Would RO water do this? Anyway, we also have a protein skimmer, which I didn't have on my old tank. Not sure if I've provided enough info. Any responses would be greatly appreciated.
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I'm not sure what type of water it is but the owner's son said it would be ready for fish in about 2 days. Does this sound right?
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What type of water would reduce the cycle time so dramatically? Would RO water do this?
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Test your water and wait it out. Throw in an uncooked shrimp or two and wait it out. Test the water for the Big 3 - ammonia, nitrites, nitrates. Your tank is ready when ammonia and nitrites have returned to zero after spiking (my ammonia was over 8 for several days) and you've done water changes to reduce accumulated nitrates.
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Test your water and wait it out. Throw in an uncooked shrimp or two and wait it out. Test the water for the Big 3 - ammonia, nitrites, nitrates. Your tank is ready when ammonia and nitrites have returned to zero after spiking (my ammonia was over 8 for several days) and you've done water changes to reduce accumulated nitrates.
i didn't think that sounded right. i do plan to wait it out. i tested the water today, just to see and everything is at zero, except nitrates...that's normal though right? the salinity is extremely high....higher than the hydrometer even measures. i don't think i'll be buying water from them again nor will i ask their advice.
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It dosen't sound right, all new aquariums need time to cycle.
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Find a new LFS, they are giving you bad advice. Chances are your tank has not even begun the cycle yet. With the LR and a cocktail shrimp you can expect your cycle to last 4-6 weeks.
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thank you, iando! i do plan on finding a new lfs. how often should i test the water? and as far as test kits...are the strips as accurate as the others? did you read what i wrote about my salinity being extremely high, immeasurably high? i've never seen that happen before. and this is the water i purchased from my lfs. not good at all thanks for all the advice everyone!!
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the salinity is extremely high....higher than the hydrometer even measures
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If you are using a hydrometer you might be getting a false reading by air bubbles being stuck to the swing arm. Fill the hydrometer very slow and if it is still a high reading give it a good tap. At this point if it is still high then there is a problem. I would suggest getting a refractometer to test salinity as it is much more reliable.
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the salinity is extremely high....higher than the hydrometer even measures.
When i check my SG i'd say 2 out of 5 times i get a false reading that says the SG is more than the hydrometer can read. I check it a few times to make sure i get the same reading
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IMHO I believe the LFS probably meant ready for a few damsel fish for cycling the tank. It is still pretty common for cycling a tank with fish. You do need to check the validity of the hydrometer reading though.
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Get a good book. Try the Conscientious Marine Aquarist, available at this library. Might even be able to keep the LFS, but be better able to decide for yourself - and with help if needed, what to buy and when.

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