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Old 02-22-2011, 08:50 PM   #1
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Deep sand bed or no deep sand bed debate

what do you guys think, is a deep sand bed worth having. do you need one to house burrowing inverts and fish? right now i have 1.5-2 inches os sand bed is that enough to house pistol shrimp and yellow watchman goby as well as some nassarius snails?

i've been hearign with a deep sand bed you should never move the sand around to much, as you can cause hydrogean sulfide into the water if you get decaying food and detrius under the sand bed
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Old 02-22-2011, 09:47 PM   #2
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i have heard of people's tanks crashing due to a sand bed expelling toxins. it was with beds that were 5 years old or more. i've never tried a DSB though, and state this is only hearsay.
i have always been told that the best way to have a DSB is in a separate tank. something that can be closed off from the DT if necessary.

i have also heard that the filtration benefits are excellent.

i will be implementing one in my next system, but it will be a separate tank from the DT.

i guess we need the folks with 10 year old DSB's to speak up.


btw- what's in the bed is not what keeps the nassarius snails fed. it's what you put in the tank. they eat meaty foods. uneaten fish food is their main diet IME.
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i feed my fish pellets and once a week mysis shrimp. i eventually plan on makign my own frozen fish food as i stated in a thread a few weeks ago but right now i just have two clowns and they are still small.

i'm also not talkign about whats in the bed i've just read that they need a 4 inch deep sand bed since they are sifting snails
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they don't really need more than enough to stay buried. your sand bed is fine for them.
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I`ve never tried a deep sandbed either but only because I dont like the look of them.
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Old 02-22-2011, 10:20 PM   #6
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i agree it takes up a bit of space, i more consider it for the burrowing inverts.

i think i may eventually do a HOB refugium and put a DSB in there and see how much nitrate it sucks out
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I have had DSB for awhile now. I like the look. there is just some pros and cons.
One thing i have found is that yes if you stir it up it will cause your tank to crash(trust me it has happened lost tons of corals that day) But truly if you are looking into burrowing fish they help fro my past experience. This may not be it but i think they help because they are constantly moving the sand so therefore making it were toxins cant be in there or at least stay in their long. Although i must admit just my opinion having a DSP you always run the small risk that your tank will crash. But burrowing fish will help. If i remember right if you have a DSB You do not want to go above 5 inches. Then you have a high risk of crashes
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i've been watchign some videos on youtube by a guy named newyorksteelo and he is extremely knowlegdable and has only had a deep sand bed in his when hes never vaccumed and the only time hes had a crash was at the beginning when he moved the sand slightly while cleaning the glass.

the sand stores little air pockets and slowly releases them, and it slowly reduces the nitrates. he says the first ince has critters that act like the critters i nthe live rock, and in the lower part of the sand there are critters that live there that require less air which turn the nitrate into other gases that are slowly released to the surface of the water
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Hey is knowledgeable but annoying with the length of time he takes to explain things
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fair enough but would you rather wait and get the right information, or get the wrong info and kill everything
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