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Old 04-08-2005, 05:52 PM   #1
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DIRTY sand HELP PLEASE!!!!

I changed my CC to sand 2 weeks ago. I am not very happy so far. My sand is EXTREAMLY dirty with poop and other left overs. I dont feed very heavily. I have about 15 hermit carbs. When ever my orange spotted goby sifts in the sand (which he is continously doing) he makes a huge mess. I am very frustrated. I have a skimmer box, with one power head in the tank.
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-50gal tank
-20gal tall sump / refugium.
-About 15-20 lbs of live rock
-60 lbs (3") of sand.
-2x65w power compact lights
-2x18w power compact in the refug.
-bak pak 2R
-3 LARGE feather dusters all differebt colors
-orange spotted goby
-fire fish
-12 or so hermits
-50-60 nassairus snails
-about 12 turno snails
-emrald crab
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Old 04-08-2005, 06:01 PM   #2
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Have any snails? Nassarius and or cerith? They will help clean it up some.
How much circulation do you have?
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Old 04-08-2005, 06:40 PM   #3
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one powerhead doesn't sound like much, even counting the gph from your return pump (on the fuge).
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Old 04-08-2005, 07:40 PM   #4
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Thanks for the tips so far......Think I need more circulation? What will that do? wont it just blow the pieces around more. I already have pieces of it being blown in the water. I just about 30min ago got done with a 9-10 gallon water change to no avail. I have about 10 or 11 snails. They stay mostly on the rocks, and come to think of it, I dont think I have ever seen them in the sand. My frustration is growing..........
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-50gal tank
-20gal tall sump / refugium.
-About 15-20 lbs of live rock
-60 lbs (3") of sand.
-2x65w power compact lights
-2x18w power compact in the refug.
-bak pak 2R
-3 LARGE feather dusters all differebt colors
-orange spotted goby
-fire fish
-12 or so hermits
-50-60 nassairus snails
-about 12 turno snails
-emrald crab
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Old 04-09-2005, 12:28 AM   #5
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What type of snails? Turbos don't leave glass or rocks.
As quarryshark said you need nassarius or cerith
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Old 04-09-2005, 08:41 AM   #6
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I would order a large shipment ( 50+ ) of nassarius snails. Many sources recommend about 1 snail per gallon. These little guys are great. They will actually bury themselves in the sand and pop out at feeding time. They will also clean the glass at night then go back to the sand during the day.

There are a couple of sellers on e-bay who sell them at a very reasonable price. I over-ordered understanding that there would be a certain amount of die off, but that even if 50% died during shipping, I would still have paid less than a pet store. ( 100 snails for $30). The fellow actually shipped me 135 snail and I estimated about 90-100 survived.
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Old 04-09-2005, 10:47 AM   #7
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Will Nassarius snails clean the debris from the sand?
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-50gal tank
-20gal tall sump / refugium.
-About 15-20 lbs of live rock
-60 lbs (3") of sand.
-2x65w power compact lights
-2x18w power compact in the refug.
-bak pak 2R
-3 LARGE feather dusters all differebt colors
-orange spotted goby
-fire fish
-12 or so hermits
-50-60 nassairus snails
-about 12 turno snails
-emrald crab
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They will help keep your sand bed stirred up, getting the debris down into the sand so the anerobic bacteria there can break it down.

A sand sifting starfish might be good too if you don't already have one.
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Old 04-09-2005, 02:40 PM   #9
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I just added a maxi jst 600 power head with a sponge attached to it. I now have that, along with an aqua clear 30 with a sponge that I rigged to that as well. I plan to clean the sponges atlease once a week. ( I have BIG particles floating in the water.) Once the water is to my liking, I plan to take the sponges off the power heads all togther. Thoughts???
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-20gal tall sump / refugium.
-About 15-20 lbs of live rock
-60 lbs (3") of sand.
-2x65w power compact lights
-2x18w power compact in the refug.
-bak pak 2R
-3 LARGE feather dusters all differebt colors
-orange spotted goby
-fire fish
-12 or so hermits
-50-60 nassairus snails
-about 12 turno snails
-emrald crab
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Old 04-09-2005, 06:59 PM   #10
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Leave the sponges on if you have or plan to have anemones.
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