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Old 10-02-2003, 04:55 PM   #11
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yeah but they have been in there since i started to cycle, they must have lived thru the beginning of the cycling process but died when the nitrite started to spike, which I beleive is toward the middle or end of the process. someone correct me if im wrong. :|
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Old 10-02-2003, 05:01 PM   #12
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Old 10-02-2003, 05:17 PM   #13
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ok, thanks for helping out, maybe someone else will jump in and add their 2 cents...
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Old 10-02-2003, 08:54 PM   #14
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Buy a test kit, add a shrimp, test weekly for all your spikes- ammonia, trites, trates. Watch ph and alkalinity. When everything settles add 1 maybe 2 damsels. wait! watch! test! I would also recommend a DSB, and IMO, at least some LR. Don't get "triggerhappy", sorry I couldn't help myself. HTH PS I would recommend a SEACHEM basic marine test kit, it cost about $25.00 includes ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, ph, alkalinity, and reference tests to ensure your results are accurate.
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Old 10-02-2003, 10:02 PM   #15
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im gonna see if the lfs has the seachem test kits. Thanks!
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Old 10-02-2003, 10:57 PM   #16
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one last ? -- should I do a water change/cc cleaning now or wait?
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Old 10-03-2003, 09:40 AM   #17
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all suggestions so far are good ones, you do need a test kit. Just one thought though.

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added the ph and they died. but i know the ph had nothing to do with it.
How do you know? what kind of PH, Rio's have been known to leak electricity into the water, even when brand new. any brand really can be deffective right from the get go, but rio's are especialy suseptable.

you can test this by 1: a multimeter- insert one probe into the ground on an outlet and the other into the tank, with the setting on 120 VAC. just make sure your in the ground side of the outlet. (third prong).

2: you can get those wand typ electrical checkers that beep when they encounter an electrical currant. and pass it across the waters surface. if there is any juice in the water it should start squaking.

if you encounter any juice from either method, then unplug the PS and chk again. if you find a measurable drop in juice, then take it out and get an replacement.

Also for your safty you should have everything pluged into a GFI sockett, and you should also have a titanium grounding prob for your tank.

Somthing to think about,
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Old 10-03-2003, 02:12 PM   #18
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If that was the case, how did one fish survive? One damsel is still swimming around, wouldnt he of gotten Zapped too? Unless he's some superfish or somethin 8O BTW it's a maxijet 1200 PH. If it WAS leakin electricity, could any fish POSSIBLY survive? I'm sayin, no... :|
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Crushed Coral 60lbs
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Old 10-03-2003, 06:01 PM   #19
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I have never heard of a PH leaking electricity to the point it would kill fish. If you assume a PH can what about the heater is your temp fluxing at all? How long was it till you found your first fish dead. In high water movement areas they can start to decompose very quickly and produce alot of ammonia.
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Old 10-03-2003, 08:27 PM   #20
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temp has been stable 82 degrees. the fish died overnight, not right away...the mystery continues, ill post what the test says when i get it done. btw, cool dog gooeyferret, what kind is that? 8)
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Crushed Coral 60lbs
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