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Old 02-25-2010, 02:07 AM   #11
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Your tap tested at 9ppm for what? Nitrates?
How about PO4?
Do you have a tds meter?
My tap measures 185-220 ppm on the TDS meter and 0 after RODI unit. That's the reason for using RODI water.
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Old 02-25-2010, 09:28 AM   #12
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What is the Nitrate level in the tank? If it's too high to tell (API over 40 is hard to differentiate) then use some freshly mixed SW and use 50% that and 50% tank water and double the result. If that's too high, do 25% tank water 75% newly mixed. If that's too high, you're in trouble.
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Old 02-25-2010, 09:52 AM   #13
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First step to replace those bio-balls might help. Are you using a protein skimmer? Still waiting for the tank nitrate test readings. 20ppm and below is totally acceptable, but you say yours haven't been south of 20 for some time, right?

Also, are you using a clean up crew/CUC and if so, what and how many. Also, describe your feeding. What and how often?
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my nitrates are inbetween 40 and 50 ppm. my pwc tested 0 on nitrates and nitrites. i am going to start removing my bio balls slowly and adding live rock rubble to it. my protein skimmer is a pos and im in the process of buying a new one. everyone has their own openion on which ones to use.any sugestions. 58 gal with custom 20 long sump. far as cuc goes, i have several snails,blue leg hermits. i recently found what i think to be feather dusters. (filter feeders right) i feed every other day. would go longer but my cinaminon clown tries to pick on my green chromis. i feed 2 types of food. 1 is flakes the other on is the frozen seafood squares for fish.(marine quizene and stuff) one square will last me 3 feedings. the flakes all i use is a pinch.

sorry for my ignorance but what is an tds meter and what is its specific uses?

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Flakes and frozen food are notorious for adding nitrates to your system. The water that the frozen food is in is loaded with the stuff allegedly. I've never tested it though. Anyone up for a "homework assignment"??

Total disolved solids = TDS. It tells you how much dissolved junk is in your water basically.
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I maintain a 125 reef tank w/200+ lbs LR and after battling the nitrates down from over 200 to under 20, they went down all the way on their own and are staying there, and he feeds frozen brine shrimp daily, so I think it all has to do with the brand maybe and how you rinse before feeding, and the amount of LR in the system.

I wouldn't add LR rubble in place of bio-balls, it's essentially the same thing from what I've read. I would just add more large pieces to the display tank, or even get some base rock (dried out LR) if you can't afford to go buy that much LR at once. If you go buy LR make sure to only add 10% of your system water every other week and test for ammonia/nitrite spikes. Get enough so you have at a minimum 1 lb per gallon, preferably 2lb/gal and over time, it should denitrify naturally.

I like the Reef Octopus needlewheel skimmer. I have only used that one and an AquaC though. Plenty of good ones out there at reasonable prices, but get a good one for sure, don't go cheap.
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Right Floyd. Need to be clear that rinsing the frozen food helps.
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Some good advice here. RINSE all frozen before using (though I use Rod's Food which states it is made with RODI so I don't rinse it).
The difference between bioballs and LR rubble is that LR (rubble or not) IF it is porous (pretty much any Indo Pacific rock) has holes and crevices where denitrification can occur because these areas are anoxic (devoid of oxygen). Bioballs don't have many those areas, though I'm led to believe that some of the newer materials do. Regardless of the material used you must forget about the wet/dry concept and go to a WET concept IMO. That simply means that whatever material you use for bacterial growth, all of it should be under water. The Wet/Dry concept has water splashing onto a material that is not submerged therefore it is always oxygenated. By submerging it there will be some areas of lower flow that can go anoxic and help with dentrification

Of course, PWC's done often enough and in large enough volume can prevent all of the buying of this or that (just salt mix).

I have a custom made skimmer but if I had to buy a new one today Octopus would be my number once choice from other member's recommendations.
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I have a custom made skimmer but if I had to buy a new one today Octopus would be my number once choice from other member's recommendations.

was wondering if snyone know what a good decent model of this octopus skimmer is. does anyone have one. what is so special about them. any real changes in water spec? need one big enough for 58 tank and custom 20 long sump... id say and additional 10 gal or so
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They are based on a well known good design and are inexpensive compared to similar models.
Reef Octopus NWB 110 or Reef Octopus DNWB 110 would be my choice.
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