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Old 05-15-2007, 10:49 AM   #11
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Definitely, knowing the acclimation of the urchin would possibly tells us why his "pokey things" were being snapped off. When their spines fall off, or they are being eaten by something that usually wouldn't eat them (if he were healthy), we could guess that:
1. He was in bad shape from the LFS
2. He was not properly acclimated and became stressed enough that it couldn't escape/defend himself.
I do see your point that acclimation may have not been the problem. I should have started with how long has he been in the tank.
Personally, I think the urchin was already on it's way out (or already dead) and the crabs took advantage of the situation.
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I've heard that urchins are very, very tasty and that's why they have the spines to protect themselves, without the spines they are just a nice treat.
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Old 05-15-2007, 01:48 PM   #13
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I acclamated the urchin about 15 min from the time he was bagged up at the fish store. with about 1/2 tank water and 1/2 store water the container I had and the amount of water from the fish store wasnt enough since the urchin had such long pines. I then used airline tubing to start a drip and let it drip for about 45 min. then dropped him in the tank.. Also the lady at the store took forever to bag him up she had a really hard time since he was so pokey???? But it did last 5 days and the first 4 days he was stuck to the glass at times and moving around on the sand and rock at other times seemed fine. And like I said my water parameters seemed ok unless and urchin is affected by something other that nitrates nitrites ammonia ph and salinity and temperature. My temperature has been a stable 80-82 since I have had it set up my heater is pretty reliable????
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Inverts should be dripped for at least 2 hours, I find this gives me plenty of time to get the tank ready.
Was it a long spined urchin?
What color, just curious?
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it was a black urchin with really long pines and 1 eyeball looking thing in the center that looked green
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Ok, it was a long spined urchin. Were you aware the spines contain venom? If healthy, he should have been able to ward off the crabs.
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I was not aware of that So I guess my next question is what went wrong I dont understand why he died. Do you think it was because he did not get the full 2 hour acclamation// If I got another one and acclamated him for the full 2 hours would he have a fair chance at survival?? what else could have gone wrong Maybe the handling from the lady who bagged it she took like 15 min to bag him and I did not watch her????
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My first thoughts would be the acclimation. Inverts take longer to acclimate because they are very sensitive to water parameter swings. I believe he should be able to defend himself from the puffer, but there is no guarantee. When they sense a threat, they will point their spines at the offender.
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Old 05-15-2007, 04:34 PM   #19
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How did you acclimate the urchin?


Knowing this would help.??
Roka, I know why you were asking. I intended to pose the question again, though the way I wrote that, it looked as if I was asking why you wanted the info. Sorry.


Acclimation definitely could be an issue, especially if your tank has a different SG than the LFS.
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No problem, no harm done.
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