Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Saltwater and Reef > Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 01-28-2005, 10:00 PM   #1
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Glendale->Los Angeles->California
Posts: 74
Send a message via AIM to klubvibez
FED UP WITH NITRATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I am a perfectionist. I can't handle anything being wrong. The following are the conditions of my tank:

Temperature: 81 degrees
Ammonia: inbetween 0 and .25
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate!: 30PPM


No matter how many water changes i do, i cant get the **** Nitrate to go lower. I want the level to be zero. I heard about some ion exchange resin or something like that, which removes nitrate? Surely with all this technology, heart bypass surgery, man on the moon, there must be SOME way to completely eradicate my Nitrate levels. Does anyone know any method? ANYTHING AT ALL? even if its an unproven home-made remedy, i am willing to try it.

My tank is a 40 Gallon saltwater tank with:

50 Pounds of Live Rock
2 inches of live sand
10 Fish + 2 Anemones + 1 Arrow Crab + Sea Star + Cucumber + Various Janitorial inverts( snails mini crabs)

Two 65 watt 50/50 power compacts (with actynics)---> Coralife (thanx darin)

I have two powerheads, and a 150 gallon rated Wet/Dry filter with the blue bio ball thingies. I also have a Canister filter. Overall, when you add everything together, the flow of water is roughly 450 Gallons per Hour. Pardon me if im being too detailed, its just im trying to think of all the questions you all normally ask

Is there anything that can be done to make my water 100% perfect? I know nitrate isn't that toxic to fish, but im planning on adding corals, so if any of you have ANY tips/advice/scolding/constructive criticism, lemme have it!


Sincerely-
The Paranoid Aquarist


__________________

__________________
120 Gallon Tank undergoing restoration process
klubvibez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2005, 10:02 PM   #2
steve-s
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: FED UP WITH NITRATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by klubvibez
My tank is a 40 Gallon saltwater tank with:

10 Fish
That's your main problem. Reduce the fish population.

Cheers
Steve
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2005, 10:04 PM   #3
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Glendale->Los Angeles->California
Posts: 74
Send a message via AIM to klubvibez
the fish are small. The largest one is a Valentini Puffer. The rest of them are all the size of two guitar picks placed next to eachother. (Baby clownfish)
__________________
120 Gallon Tank undergoing restoration process
klubvibez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2005, 10:06 PM   #4
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Lompoc, Ca
Posts: 1,313
Send a message via AIM to XXFirefighter Send a message via Yahoo to XXFirefighter
number of fish maybe...

Can try adding a clam or 2 and some mangrove plants !
__________________
XXFirefighter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2005, 10:17 PM   #5
Aquarium Advice Activist
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: des moines, ioway
Posts: 149
Send a message via Yahoo to tiredfish
what kind of water do you use...i use tap and my levels are out the roof...but iowa's water quality sux...i tested the water before i mix it and put it in there and its at 30 to start with....seachem makes stuff called de-nitrate i think...not for sure how it works .. you mix it into your substrate i think. good luck
__________________
to quote anything is like sayin' "hey, look at me i can quote!"
tiredfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2005, 10:30 PM   #6
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Richmond, Va
Posts: 804
a refugium with at least 1/3 volume of the main tank with DSB and macroalgae would make a big difference.
__________________
46g SW, 65 lbs Fiji LR, 4" Aragamax DSB, Coralife 2X96w CF, CPR Bakpak II, CPR Aquafuge 12 w/ 2x9 Coralife Mini Aqualight, 4 Maxijet 600's, PCI 200W Titanium Heater, 2 Blue Green Chromis, 1 Gold Bar Maroon Clown, 1 Purple-Stripe Dottyback, Finger Leather, Trumpets, Rose Coral Open-Brain, Pagoda Cup, Xenia, Star Polyps, Yellow Polyps, Various Mushrooms, Toadstool Leather, 12 Astraea, 10 Nassarius, 4 Bumble Bee, 6 Cerith Snails, 12 Red Tip Hermits.
phases99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2005, 10:38 PM   #7
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Tulsa
Posts: 562
Refuge or remove a couple fish.
__________________
150 rr Oceanic, 300 pound lr,250 pounds ls, lps's, polyp's,soft corals, sps's,
Thumper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2005, 10:42 PM   #8
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 5,832
Send a message via Yahoo to quarryshark
Even if the fish were all 1" (doubt if they are), you would still be overstocked. The optimal amount of fish for a SW system is 2" of adult size fish per 10 gallons. Assuming that your fish average 2", then you have more than double the bioload for that tank size.
That is certainly at the heart of your problem and it will only get worse as the fish grow. All the water movement in the world will not make up for an overloaded tank.
A sump/refugium would help(for now), but for long term health, it would be of benefit to thin down the population a bit.
JMO
__________________
quarryshark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2005, 10:50 PM   #9
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Rocky Mount VA
Posts: 943
In addition to reducing the bioload you may want to work on the wet dry filter. The bio balls are known for creating high nitrates. You can remove them and add LR rubble. Just remember that LR rubble needs to be completely underwater at all times.
__________________
Vote for AquariumAdvice

28gal bowfront
40lbs livesand(bag from LFS), 30lbs live rock(LR.com)
2 O. Clowns
1 peppermint shrimp, 5 red leg hermit crabs,
4 mexican turbo snails, 15 nassarius snails
ricordea mushroom, candy cane coral,
super color polyps, hairy mushrooms
bubble coral, hawiian feather duster
coralife lunar 2x65, HOT magnum canister
10 Gal refugium(chaeto) & seaclone skimmer
RMPD109 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2005, 10:57 PM   #10
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 468
I second what RMPD109 said, the bio ball will cause nitrates to go up. If you are serious about this, remove the bioballs (a little at a time) and use LR rubble, then build a small refugium, that will really help. It doesn't have to be big, mine is small and does the trick. Nothing fancy needs to be in there, just get some chaeto macroalgae and the nitrates will decrease.

here is some info on my fuge....

Here goes....
Measurements for my fuge container are 12L x 9W x 12H. I don't know how many gallons it is. Not many, but it appears enough to keep nitrates at 0 (love to have a bit bigger one, but not enough space).

Below are some pics. I basically run a small powerhead in my sump with some tubing over it, it pumps water into the fuge via a small hole in the top of the lid. the water is returned into the sump by gravity. I drilled 2 holes and added 2 bulkheads on the side of the fuge to return the water. One is placed a bit higher than the other and works as a backup in case the lower one clogs up. The flow is minimal in the fuge, but it appears to be just enough. Let me know if you have any questions.







HTH,
Jim
__________________

__________________
JamesR is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
nitrate

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Now I'm really getting fed up ScottS Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion 2 05-19-2009 03:28 AM
I've fed him peas..now what mr86mister Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion 9 09-06-2005 08:43 PM
is this Demasoni ok or just not fed much SerLunchbox Freshwater & Brackish - Unhealthy Fish 9 04-01-2005 10:04 PM
I am fed up with my skimmer! bizzybeas Saltwater Reef Aquaria 10 02-14-2004 12:04 AM
Fed up with mushrooms BBReef Saltwater Reef Aquaria 7 02-12-2004 12:46 PM







» Photo Contest Winners








Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:25 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.