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Old 03-07-2014, 11:24 PM   #11
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Yea, I get what you're saying, seems like I have some equipment to research specs on before I buy stuff and try to Frankenstein it together lol

Would 3 chambers in a 10g be good if it was setup up with the skimmer on the intake side, refugium in the middle and then return in the last? If I have the sump do I need a reactor or can I use my canister as a reactor with bagged GFO/carbon/purigen?
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Old 03-07-2014, 11:35 PM   #12
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So here are two skimmers I'm looking at, both of which would start in my tank until I could get the required pump/sump/ and overflow built to move. Can one of you guys give me insight on which I'd be better off with?




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Old 03-07-2014, 11:36 PM   #13
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In my opinion the size of the potential refugium in a 10g with three baffles will be too small to see any real benefit. You;d be hard pressed to find a skimmer as well to fit in that first compartment.

Yep, no need for a reactor if you can run chemical filtration in a canister. Just ahve to keep it clean.
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Old 03-07-2014, 11:38 PM   #14
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I have used the aquaticlife skimmer before and its not a bad little skimmer. The other one is made for really small tanks though so I would skip that one.

One step up from the aquaticlife one is this:

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Old 03-08-2014, 06:00 PM   #16
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In my first tank, which is now my running QTank, I have no room for a sump. So I got a CPR Aquafuge HOB refugium and skimmer. It's only 5 gallons and has the skimmer and chaeto. My trates are 0. When it was my main tank, my trates had climbed to about 80 as a FOWLR system. I got the Aquafuge and surprisingly quickly my trates dropped to 0.
IMO any sized sump with a light and room for a skimmer is better than a kick in the butt.
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Will a refugium that small accomplish anything, seen a few videos and posts that say they aren't very effective in small sumps. Anybody have experience with a 10g sump?
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In my opinion the size of the potential refugium in a 10g with three baffles will be too small to see any real benefit. You;d be hard pressed to find a skimmer as well to fit in that first compartment.

Yep, no need for a reactor if you can run chemical filtration in a canister. Just ahve to keep it clean.
I run a 10g refugium without any baffles on my 20g mixed reef. I also don't run a skimmer on my tank. There isn't a single doubt in my mind that my tank wouldn't be as healthy as it is now without my refugium. My suggestion is to skip the skimmer and go with a 10g refugium. Skimmers aren't necessary on a tank the size of a 20g.

Furthermore, a suggested sump size is approx 1/2 the size of the display.

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For space reasons, I'm thinking a 10g would be about what I can handle right now.. That's where I'm confused I guess, if a 10g sump would be more effective than the reactor, but I guess I could always have the sump AND the reactor eventually..
Start with a refugium and move up from there.
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Thanks everybody! I went ahead and ordered a skimmer based on everybody's recommendations and looking at successful tanks, I am going to build the 10g sump and probably make as much of it a refugium as possible. Going to build the PVC overflow and probably baffle the tank this week, I'll post pics and probably do a review of the aquatic life skimmer I bought.

Mebbid, any recommendations for a light for the refugium?

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Thanks everybody! I went ahead and ordered a skimmer based on everybody's recommendations and looking at successful tanks, I am going to build the 10g sump and probably make as much of it a refugium as possible. Going to build the PVC overflow and probably baffle the tank this week, I'll post pics and probably do a review of the aquatic life skimmer I bought.

Mebbid, any recommendations for a light for the refugium?

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I use two clip on shop lights with the strongest powered 6500k CFL bulbs I could find. It grows both my chaeto and caulerpa obscenely quickly. About the second month my tank was set up I saw a little bit of turf algae and a smidge of hair algae. About a week or two later it had disappeared and never showed back up despite daily feedings.
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I use two clip on shop lights with the strongest powered 6500k CFL bulbs I could find. It grows both my chaeto and caulerpa obscenely quickly. About the second month my tank was set up I saw a little bit of turf algae and a smidge of hair algae. About a week or two later it had disappeared and never showed back up despite daily feedings.
Can you post a pic of your sump set up or message it to me? I'd like to see it as a reference.
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