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Old 03-07-2014, 09:31 PM   #1
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Ok AA, here is my situation..

I have a 20g reef tank started that has been up for 3 weeks now and have realized I need to expand my system's filtration.

I currently have a Cascade 700 canister filter with no sponges, just filter floss and a bag of purigen, the filter runs almost 200gph. I have around 15lbs of rock, a maxi-jet 400(around 100gph) powerhead, a heater, and an ebay, 120w LED light set up.

My tank is repeatedly blooming hair algae, even after water changes and keeping the lights off for 2-3 days after picking off as much as I can. So, here is where I'm looking for opinions....

In my 20g system, would I be better off adding a sump, with a refugium/skimmer/return?

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Adding a HOB skimmer and a dual reactor, GFO/carbon and keeping my canister filter for flow and replacing the floss with either ceramic bio media or some live rock rubble?
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Old 03-07-2014, 09:39 PM   #2
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Pretty easy question. More water always assists with stable parameters in saltwater. That'll give you the room for a skimmer, a reactor setup, and even a refugium is a possibility.
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Old 03-07-2014, 09:53 PM   #3
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Will a refugium that small accomplish anything, seen a few videos and posts that say they aren't very effective in small sumps. Anybody have experience with a 10g sump?
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Bigger is always better, for sumps and refugiums. I was pointing more towards you having more options by utilizing a sump.
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Old 03-07-2014, 10:00 PM   #5
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For space reasons, I'm thinking a 10g would be about what I can handle right now.. That's where I'm confused I guess, if a 10g sump would be more effective than the reactor, but I guess I could always have the sump AND the reactor eventually..
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Old 03-07-2014, 10:28 PM   #6
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IMO it all comes down to how comfortable you are with the hob overflow. Sumps in general make tanks look cleaner and it's always nice to have the extra water volume but the same things can be accomplished via the hob route. So I guess the question is are you comfortable using the hob overflow?
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I have looked up a ton of HOB overflow designs and I'd say I'm comfortable trying it. This will be my first overflow, period, so it is a little nerve wracking but the theory behind the PVC overflow seems legit, even with a power outage as long as the intake tube is deep enough in the water I don't see a way you can lose suction..

I've read a lot of post by you two guys (Sniper/BigRed) and can tell you know your stuff, so with that being said, I think I'll pick a tank up this weekend/Monday and start construction for my overflow and sump. Any recommendations on return pump brands to use/avoid?
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I use eheim submersible pumps. I've also heard good things about mag drive pumps
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Is there a rule of thumb as to how fast water should move through the sump?
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It depends on the equipment being run in the sump. If you have a skimmer with a 500 gph pump them you want at least 500 gph moving through the sump. You can go for more but going less isn't a good idea because your equipment won't run as well as it should. You get what I mean?
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