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Old 09-21-2011, 10:27 AM   #21
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inverts and corals are more susceptable to ammonia and nitrites than most fish, and corals more so yet. dont have them in your tank when you cycle... yes some do it and their fish live, but they certainly dont thrive and when you compare lifespan of fish that survived a cycle with those that didnt there is a difference.

I happen to have a small crab and some weird chitin looking thing in my tank during my cycle but only because they hitched a ride on my rock.
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Old 09-21-2011, 01:23 PM   #22
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Any advice on the setup of the Fluval 405? What do you put in the media baskets. @Carey, if you are following, I know you used a canister on one of your tanks. How did you load it from top to bottom? Or anyone else that has run this filter?
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Old 09-21-2011, 01:31 PM   #23
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I used mostly biomedia in my fluval canister on my 55g.

I used carbon too so I have that in there and I use filter pads for it as well. theres so many little compartments you can put whatever you want int here. The biomedia I have is up towards the top so that the most clean water hits it. You want the pads and such to get the bigger particles first before the bio stuff doesn't gather up gunk.

For the life of me I can't remember the order though, I'm confused since I have a fluval fx5 as well and it runs completely opposite from the other fluval. lol I think the fluval 405 goes from the bottom to the top as far as water flow.

Hope that helped a little bit.

If you go the fluval route make sure you maintain it properly, if not nitrates will build up like crazy in there. I actually ran mine and maintained 0 nitrates so it can be done.
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Old 09-21-2011, 04:10 PM   #24
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@carey, do you think I will have to use a powerhead also with the 405, or should the flow from the filter be enough? Maybe put the 405 output on one side and a small koralia on the opposite side?
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I used 2 750 koralias in my 29 when I first started. A bit overkill but I made it work.

I would have 2 powerheads Plus the filter output if it were me. The filter doesnt flwo very much actually plus you want total directional control over your flow. I use 2 750's in my 55g plus the fluval output.

I would go with a 550 koralia on either side. If I had that option when I bought mine I woulda done that. They didn't have 550's out yet when I got my power heads so I had either 425 or 750 to choose from.
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Thanks carey, something to add to my list.
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The list never stops growing either....it's endless let me tell ya LOL
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A few questions

So, I still need to get:

Salt - How much would be good to start with that will last a little while?
Test Kit - Just the basic Saltwater master kit?
Ammonia - No surfactants!
RO/DI unit - Got the link from carey for that!
Live rock - $4/lb at my lfs for fiji - How many pounds should I get? Am going to use lace rock for the base rock. How much live rock to cycle and seed the base rock?

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T5HO 4 bulb light w/ LED night lights - kinda cheap Odessea.
Refractometer - careys link on ebay.

Thanks again for all the help and advise!

Sorry for all the questions, I want to do this right and make my wife want the bigger tank to be saltwater after she sees this one flourish!
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I would splurge on a bucket of salt. I bought my first bucket of I/O salt for my fisrt tank and now I buy it by the 200g boxload. It's so much cheaper that way, I pay 42.99 for the box. I got the bucket so I can drop the bags from the boxes right into the airtight I/O bucket. I just jeep refilling the original bucket when its empty.

For cycling you need the saltwater master kit. After that when you go to corals then we'll chat then

Ace hardware is your best bet for the ammnonia. About $3 a bottle. Janitorial strength.

As far as rock I'd say a total of 45-50 lbs. You can get 35 lbs of base rock and then the rest in live rock.

The lights you picked are exactly the ones I started my first tank with, and I had absolutely no problem with them. They managed to bleach out a coral on me, so they have some power to them. They just barely fit on the rim of my tank was my only complaint.

If you need the links for anything just ask.

I think you got the basics covered. I can't think of anything off the top of my head that you missed. Maybe a heater ? lol that's all I got
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You are awesome carey. Do you buy the salt on line or at your lfs? If on-line, link please!
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