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Old 09-13-2009, 10:39 AM   #21
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.25 is where the ammonia starts to affect the fishes health. Try to keep below that as best as you can until you get the fish out of the tank. Are you using a liquid test kit? If not get one, strips aren't accurate or reliable. Nitrates are a little high and shouldn't be allowed to go much higher with fish in the tank. Once the fish are out of the tank I would I only check ammonia once in a while then nitrites when ammonia readings reach 0 then for nitrates when the nitrites get to 0. After your nitrites peak then drop back down to 0 your tank is then considered cycled at which point you would do a 50% water change, wait a couple of days for the tank to settle, make sure all of your parameters are good then start adding fish a little at a time. Do you have the live rock yet?
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.25 is where the ammonia starts to affect the fishes health. Try to keep below that as best as you can until you get the fish out of the tank. Are you using a liquid test kit? If not get one, strips aren't accurate or reliable. Nitrates are a little high and shouldn't be allowed to go much higher with fish in the tank. Once the fish are out of the tank I would I only check ammonia once in a while then nitrites when ammonia readings reach 0 then for nitrates when the nitrites get to 0. After your nitrites peak then drop back down to 0 your tank is then considered cycled at which point you would do a 50% water change, wait a couple of days for the tank to settle, make sure all of your parameters are good then start adding fish a little at a time. Do you have the live rock yet?
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Yes I have a little over 100lbs of live rock in there. I bought some pieces that were already covered in the purpley stuff. I am using a liquid test kit, and the ammonia was between 0 and .25, but closer to .25 so that is why I listed it at .25

They sold me some bacteria stuff, that on the bottle it says to add 1 tsp for every 10 gallons every other day until the ammonia is 0. Should I try some of that until I can get the fish back?
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I used raw shrimp and wouldn't consider bacterial additives to help boost the cycle. Maybe it's old fashioned but my belief is to let mother nature take her course know matter how long it takes, usually when mother nature creates something it usually sticks. I like those directions, they are telling you to put the bacteria additive in until the ammonia reading reaches 0 which will probably take 1 to 2 weeks anyway with or without it. It's up to you if you want to use it. I've heard both good and bad things about those products, IMO the use of them contributes to instability down the road.
It's good you have the LR this way you are cycling/curing at the same time.
Liquid test kit.
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Don't test PH during the cycle as it will be all over the place. I agree with everything Inferno said, especially with "letting mother nature take her course."
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Just wanted to say that this post was a great deal of help for this newbie!
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Just wanted to say that this post was a great deal of help for this newbie!
Glad my questions helped, and thanks to all the people here that responded and helped. 3 days of testing and my ammonia and nitrites are 0 and my nitrates are .5, so I'm going to put a fish or 2 in and a cleaner crew and see how they do.
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Remember that you need to be careful how you put in fish. The more aggressive fish go in last. First come the generally peaceful fish. Also, depending on the size of the fish, and how messy of an eater or pooper it is, you will want to take it slow on adding fish. If they are big fish, that are taxing on the tanks bioload, adding 2 of them before your tanks bacteria can keep up with the bioload from the fish, would end in disaster, and more ammonia spike. Then that ammonia turns in to nitrites and so forth. If they are small fish like clowns or blennies, or gobies.. then adding two would not be that big of a deal. They have very little bioload on our tanks. Two days after my tank cycled i added two ocellaris clowns. Didn't see a single point of ammonia. As well as when i added my third fish which was a firefish, 3 days later. So just remember, small fish with small bioloads, you can add in quantity, within reasoning of course. But fish like puffers, triggers, eels, etc.. all are messy eaters/poopers so they put a heavier bioload on the tank. HTH.
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Remember that you need to be careful how you put in fish. The more aggressive fish go in last. First come the generally peaceful fish. Also, depending on the size of the fish, and how messy of an eater or pooper it is, you will want to take it slow on adding fish. If they are big fish, that are taxing on the tanks bioload, adding 2 of them before your tanks bacteria can keep up with the bioload from the fish, would end in disaster, and more ammonia spike. Then that ammonia turns in to nitrites and so forth. If they are small fish like clowns or blennies, or gobies.. then adding two would not be that big of a deal. They have very little bioload on our tanks. Two days after my tank cycled i added two ocellaris clowns. Didn't see a single point of ammonia. As well as when i added my third fish which was a firefish, 3 days later. So just remember, small fish with small bioloads, you can add in quantity, within reasoning of course. But fish like puffers, triggers, eels, etc.. all are messy eaters/poopers so they put a heavier bioload on the tank. HTH.
Zer0, thanks for all your help so far. I got 5 snails, 12 mini hermit crabs and a clown fish. I will test the ammonia and see if it spikes tomorrow and the next day. I am hoping not. I also bought a digital camera tonight so when I get home ill take some pics and try to get them on here tonight.
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If your tank cycled properly, dont worry because it won't spike. One clownfish is hardly a bioload even on something like a 20G and you have a 30G. You'll be fine.
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