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Old 12-15-2008, 12:01 AM   #11
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Good video on YouTube on fishless cycling:
YouTube - Cycling your Aquarium: Chapter Three: Fishless Cycling (v.2)
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Old 12-22-2008, 02:28 PM   #12
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So as I mentioned a week or so ago, the 2 fish I had died. Instead of dropping in a shrimp as suggested here, I let the dead fish remain. 3 days later they disappeared! I noticed some of the sand had shifted and saw a thumbnail-sized crab that must have come w/the live rock. Not sure if the fish dissolved while I was away from home for a couple days or the crab got to it...(haven't seen the crab since that day).

In any case, I've tested the water regularly and have not seen any ammonia or nitrite readings. Nitrates are constant at 20. These have been the readings since right after I setup the tank and added the two fish two weeks ago.

The 20 lbs of live rock came from a tank at the lfs and was out of water for no more than 30 mins. Any chance that my tank won't see an ammonia spike? Or should I add that shrimp now just to make sure?

There was some sort of invert life on the lr (haven't had the time to figure out what it is--brownish w/a dozen or so "arms"). A few days ago, the arms seemed to be out stretched and would quickly pull in momentarily when I turned the lights on, but now they seem retracted all the time.

Thoughts on what I should do? Obviously don't want to add any fish until I'm sure its cycled.

Thanks!
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Old 12-22-2008, 02:29 PM   #13
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i think its a good idea to add some ammonia yourself. make sure its pure ammonia. windex wont work.
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Actually if you already got the LR from LFS and it's cured, you hardly would see the ammonia spikes high like the rest who got the uncured LR, which means the LR has been out of the water for sometime. However, you still have to keep testing the water. Once your Ammonia and your nitrite readings is 0, do about 33% PWC for the first PWC to bring the nitrate down. I don't think you want to add the shrimp since you already have the dead fish, cause last time I added Shrimp and my ammonia never spiked either.

Time for some experts to chime in as well. IMO, I think you should give us the readings of the ammonia and nitrite, once it's 0 for both for about a couple of days, do PWC.
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Old 12-22-2008, 03:19 PM   #15
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Sorry--should have been clearer. I did the first test a week after setting up the tank. The ammonia and nitrite readings were 0 and have never gone up. Nitrates have been about 20 and may have increased slightly.

If it has, in fact cycled (or didn't need to b/c of the lr), then I should be able to add a cocktail shrimp or fish food flakes and see just the nitrate levels rise with no material change in the other measures, right? Any other way to verify that the cycle is complete?
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...then I should be able to add a cocktail shrimp or fish food flakes and see just the nitrate levels rise with no material change in the other measures, right?
That's correct! Even if the rock wasn't cured originally, with the amount of time that's passed with lots of ammonia sources, it's probably "live" now.
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