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Old 10-16-2012, 03:34 AM   #1
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Fish or inverts first?

Hello again, my tank is very close to a finish cycle now. My tank has a good amount of hair alge growth, alittle spotted alge on glass and a little brown alge on the glass. My questions are.......

~should I put fish in first or inverts(snails,hermit crabs, etc)

~can I put a fish and a invert in at same time or not a smart idea?

~if I was to put inverts in would they starve?

Thanks in advance.


Ps.. I have watch the how to do drip method at video a few times so I know how to properly put fish/inverts in a new tank.
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Old 10-16-2012, 03:44 AM   #2
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Doesn't matter. You can add both at the same time. Give the inverts a bit of whatever you plan on feeding the fish and you'll be fine.
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Old 10-16-2012, 03:54 AM   #3
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Hey! So how are your levels now? Are you actually close? Did you dose up to 4ppm ammonia? How did it go?
Once your cycle is done, Yeah, like he said, you can do 1 fish and a few inverts at Same time. Just don't do like 6 fish all at once! And if you already have algae, your hermits and snails will have plenty to chow on!
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Hey! So how are your levels now? Are you actually close? Did you dose up to 4ppm ammonia? How did it go?
Once your cycle is done, Yeah, like he said, you can do 1 fish and a few inverts at Same time. Just don't do like 6 fish all at once! And if you already have algae, your hermits and snails will have plenty to chow on!
Yes i got it to 4ppm now just waiting, everything is so far so good. And ok thanks I'll do both.
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You might already know this, but different types of snails and hermits work differently and in different areas of the tank, so it's good to mix them up and not get all the same kind of CUC. If you want I can attach a copy of this great list about snails that I found when I was researching snails. I used it to decide which snails would clean all the areas: sandbed, glass, rock, sand stirrers, etc. let me know if u want the list.
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You might already know this, but different types of snails and hermits work differently and in different areas of the tank, so it's good to mix them up and not get all the same kind of CUC. If you want I can attach a copy of this great list about snails that I found when I was researching snails. I used it to decide which snails would clean all the areas: sandbed, glass, rock, sand stirrers, etc. let me know if u want the list.
Although this is not my thread I would very much appreciate this list
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Although this is not my thread I would very much appreciate this list
Ok... You asked for it. It's really long, but helpful.
Snails


Here's my snail info that I gathered over time:
Nassarius Snails - Nassarius spp. They mostly stay in the sand, but will sometimes make short trips up the glass. They are mainly detritus eaters and do an excellent job cleaning and shifting the sand. These are also some of the most hardy snails available. They can flip themselves upright very easily. They are fun to watch as they come bursting out of the sand bed at feeding time.

Onyx Nassarius -Ilyanassa spp. (Black Mud Snail, Black Nassarius Snail ) snails are very good at keeping sand beds completely clean of algae as well as other organics. They may occasionally strip a sand bed of enough nutrients that there will be none left to support copepod or amphipod populations. If you keep dragonets (e.g. Mandarins) that rely on healthy populations of copepods and amphipods do not get these. They are also a cooler water species and may not last that long in higer temp tanks like reef tanks.

Cerith Snails-Cerithium spp. (Cortez) - Good algae and detritus eaters that forage rock, glass, and sand. Some can pick themselves up and some cant.

Cerith Snails (White)- Good algae and detritus eaters that seem to stay in the sand more than the cortez, but can be found on the rock and glass. Once again, some can pick themselves up and others cant. These are good sand bed snails.

Fighting Conch Snails - These guys are all about the sand bed and are very cool to watch. They usually dont get flipped over, but if they do, they can kick around and turn themselves back upright.They very hardy too.

Astrea Snails -Astraea tecta: Most common of all saltwater tank snails. They are excellent algae eaters and will forage all over the rock, sand, and glass. These guys fall very easily, can not right themselves, and then die. 1 per 6 gal.

Margarita Snail - Margarites pupillus. (Stomatella Limpet Snail, Pearl Snail, Little Margarite Snail, Pearly Topped Snail ) Another snail to add to the algae eating aresnal. Will cruise around on the rock and glass.

Fighting Conchs - Strombus gibberulus. Little vacuum cleaners. One per 2 sq. ft. of sand. They'll eat diatoms and, sometimes, cyano. Get one per 2 sq. feet of tank is what was recommened to me. They tend to disappear behind the rocks for a few days then come back around to the front again. They usually dont get flipped over, but if they do, they can kick around and turn themselves back upright.They very hardy too.

Nerite Snails - Nerita spp. Mostly a rock and glass snail that are all about the algae. They may crawl above the water line of your tank as they often become exposed in the wild during low tide. Mine usually end up in the sump where they can get above the water line and come back down when they want to.

Turbo Snails : They are big and clumsy. They'll knock over or move anything that isn't glued/nailed down. Actually I had one knock a coral frag that was glued to a a plug right off the plug. But, they will attack hair algea. Mine are now escargot size and I moved them to the sump because they were always knocking corals off the rock and plugs they were attached to.

Banded Trochus - Trochus spp. (Tiger Trochus Snail, Banded Trochus Snail, Black and White Snail, Spiral-Top Snail ) Algae eating machines. Ideal size, won't knock over corals/rock, and can move very fast. Will also eat hair algae. 1 per 3 gal.

Stomatella Snails : Will breed in your tank! You will only need to get 4 or 5. They're great algae eaters and stay very small.
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You might already know this, but different types of snails and hermits work differently and in different areas of the tank, so it's good to mix them up and not get all the same kind of CUC. If you want I can attach a copy of this great list about snails that I found when I was researching snails. I used it to decide which snails would clean all the areas: sandbed, glass, rock, sand stirrers, etc. let me know if u want the list.
Thank you on your post about the snails, it help greatly thank you
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Thank you on your post about the snails, it help greatly thank you
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