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Old 03-08-2012, 10:01 PM   #111
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Ok great. I will pick one up from BRS. Going to have to make an order there soon anyway.

I got the itch to fill the sump up tonight. Glad I did. One of the seams had a small leak (my installed baffle seams, not the tank seams). I cleaned it out and dried it off, and threw some more silicon on it. All the other seams seem to be holding.
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Old 03-09-2012, 01:38 AM   #112
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Carey is starting up another BRS group buy pretty soon here so you should get in on that for sure.
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Old 03-09-2012, 03:31 AM   #113
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Old 03-09-2012, 01:26 PM   #114
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So can someone clarify this for me? Do I need to treat my 5 stage RODI water with prime before adding to my ATO a/o doing water changes? I have seen it both ways. No chloramines in my tap water btw.
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Old 03-09-2012, 01:34 PM   #115
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no you don't the RO part of the filter removes the chlorine/chloramine, ammonia, nitrites, & nitrates & the DI part removes any TDS you may have
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Old 03-09-2012, 02:05 PM   #116
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OK, so you start with a 10 micron Sediment filter to get the big stuff. Follow that with a 5 micron Charcoal to remove smaller sediment and chlorine/chloramines and organic matter. Follow that by a 1 micron Charcoal filter before the DI stage. No need for any type of prefilter or chemical. The 5 stages are what you use to strip the water of impurities.

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"Get a ten micron sediment filter for your first stage. Then obtain a good quality five micron carbon block, acid washed filter for the second stage. The ten micron filter has removed all of the dirt and sediment over ten microns from the water which protects the five micron filter. Now, all the five micron filter has to remove is sediment between 5 and 10 micron. In the third stage get a quality one micron carbon filter or a sediment filter if you have well water. You have now accomplished filtration down to one micron, five times the manufactures requirements. You have not lost a great deal of pressure and the filter can now provide you full service. So to recap; the ten protects the five, the five protects the one, and the one micron exceeds the requirement to protect the membrane by a factor of five, so your membrane sees only one micron sediment... one fifth the requirement.

Protected by a 10-to-1 micron array, the membrane is free to go about the task of removing bacteria, virus, salt, ions and dissolved metals (TDS). The filters alone have no impact on the TDS and should never be relied on to remove bacteria. Ions and bacteria are best left to the membrane. After the work done by the pre-filters and membrane, your water is very pure. The final stage is DI -- A typical mixed bed DI cartridge is capable of reducing the TDS to zero (0). "
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.025 or .026will work. Also just mix for a long time. I e heard 6 hours if using a powerhead or pump to mix and twelve hours if you just use a manual stir here and there. Mine sits for 24 hour minimum just to be sure and i use a 750 koralia to mix
What is important is that you mix until all the salt is disolved. Mixing for 24 hours (the common practice), will help with heating water and addressing some of the gas issues involved with mixing salt, but isn't truly necessary prior to using. This is important to know in the event you ever have to do a emergency water change - mix till all the salt dissolves and you are good to go. Never dump unmixed salt into the tank.

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So can someone clarify this for me? Do I need to treat my 5 stage RODI water with prime before adding to my ATO a/o doing water changes? I have seen it both ways. No chloramines in my tap water btw.
As stated above, no pretreatment of RO/DI water is required, tis what the RO/DI is for .

Nice job on the build - coming along very nicely.
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Thanks Randy! I had more than 1 person tell me I still needed to treat my RODI water with Prime and I didn't get it.

I filled the sump up tonight... all the baffles seem fine. A couple of issues:

My aqualifter feed line to the sump keeps dripping, even after I shut the aqualifter off. I would think there would be a valve or something in the pump itself, but maybe not? Can the aqualift continue to feed through and siphon water out of my ATO reservoir even in the off position, or am I just seeing what's left in output line dripping into the sump do you think? I suppose I could try setting the aqualifter on the floor behind the reservoir instead of on top of it, so that the pump is lower than the output line in the sump.

I fired my skimmer up. It seems to be working, but the air snorkel tube is noisy as it sucks in air. I suppose I gotta find a muffler to put on it something. Jonathan warned me about this I guess.

The return pump seems to work extremely well. I turned it on for about 3 seconds and the water was gushing out of the returns at the top of the tank. It looks to me like I will definitely have to restrict the outflow of it to match my drain line.

I also put the vortechs on the side of the sump and fired them up just to test that they are working. Wow, are they powerful (especially when confined to my little ~5 gallon fuge area).

Rock is still supposed to be delivered tomorrow. No word yet on sand, and it didn't show up today. I am hoping I can fill this bad boy up tomorrow (or at least start to filll; it will take a couple of days to make all the water).

I am going to mix the salt in the tank after I confirm there are no leaks. Also, going to take my return stand pipe off and drill a couple extra small diameter holes as backups to the siphon break that is on the 90.
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Hmm... mine doesn't drip. I have it above my ato reservoir to prevent it from siphoning (as it will). Maybe you need to lift your line up some? is that possible? If the output is higher than the reservoir, it can't siphon. Not sure if that's possible on your tank. Maybe stick a short piece of pvc down in to the water and have it stick up higher than your reservoir... then have the air line tubing run in to it (with room to get air so it doesn't siphon)... would keep noise down and siphon away.
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Here is a pic of my sump holding water. Yay! Oh the things us aquarium people get excited about...
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