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Old 08-13-2011, 07:05 PM   #1
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freshwater to 75 gallon saltwater reef with fish evolution.

this will be my first ever saltwater attempt. i started another tread for a 55 gallon build but sweety pie and i where so up in the air about which of our tanks to use or even if we should have just bought a new to us tank from cl.

the final decision was for the 75 gallon that previously housed our cichlids. im going to try to keep up on pictures along the way. here are the first two. even as i write this i am draining it and going to catch the feeder goldfish we borrowed from the lfs to keep our filters cycled. in the mean time i am going to add the filters to our 125 gallon cichlid tank.



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Old 08-13-2011, 07:20 PM   #2
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if you read my other thread i am reusing as much of my equipment as i can until i get the typical pieces for saltwater. on this tank we have 2 fluval 405's, 2 200 watt heaters, and a 48" coral life 2 bulb t5 light with a 10k and an actinic. oh and i may be using my bubble stick for a bit too.

for now we are taking the fish back to the lfs and then im painting the glass black.


hopefully an update tomorrow.
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Old 08-13-2011, 07:44 PM   #3
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Make sure we get some pictures when you finish painting!

You also will not need the bubble wands for the sw, just causes a ton of salt creep.
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Old 08-13-2011, 09:47 PM   #4
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It will be a month or two before i get a sump up and running. I was under the impression that was where most of the o2 exchange happened.

Not doubting you just making sure we where on the same page.

The more we talk, the more it sounds like we are doing a fish only for now. Our now 55 gallon ram tank will be cleared out and as we collect rock will be put in it. I have to do some research on live rock.

We just went to petland. Got some info i would like opinions on. Also bought some stuff for the build. As soon as we get back from dinner ill share and try to make sence while i ask for some advise
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Old 08-13-2011, 11:34 PM   #5
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long dinner....

no fish and almost all the water out... its sad to see an empty tank but good to know whats its going to turn into.



this is what i have bought 2 bags of the aragonite only one power head.




this is what happened when we moved the tank to the garage to be cleaned and painted... by the way i had good luck on my 125 using krylon fusion spray paint for the back ground. we used latex for the 55 and its already got a nick out of the paint job and that was after putting 3-4 coats on...

anyway pics of the tank...



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now i have to reseal it... fine by me, i wanted to use black silicone to update the look of the tank. but is the frame reusable?

while we where at the lfs returning the feeder goldfish they loaned us. (returned fat and happy fyi) gave us some conflicting info on the tank...

1) we need live rock to cycle the tank... i was going to use my canister filters that are well established with bb. like i said before the 55 is going to get cleaned out after we find happy homes for the rams... and will be our live rock curing and holding tank...

2)still need to find out what all live rock is and what it is to cure it or find out when i can use it in my dt.

3)freshwater bb is the not the same as saltwater bb? the whole reason for keeping my 405's under a bio load was to use them on the saltwater until we accumulate all our lr.

4)we cannot put fish in our tank until we have lr. we wanted to put black and white clowns in so its not just sitting there waiting on lr.

5)he talked us into buying (if you ask me) a horrible specimen of live rock. good deal per lb but still. we went to a another lfs and bought a nice piece. water flows through it not off it or pools. just in case what i thought was wrong.

6)both pieces are sitting in a bucket of saltwater from the store. got 3? gallons for free... big deal but one of the pieces is partially out of the water with a paper towel wicking the water up to the topside. is that going to be ok until i can reseal the tank?

7)no fish for a month because of lr cycling the tank. canister filters?

8)base rock (puckani or figi base rock from one of the online stores like reefcleaners or bulkreefsupply) cannot be used in addition to live rock because it will take upwards of 5 years to make it live. made it sound like we could only use live rock... ie buy it from the store or someone...

i know some are asked twice and many are contingent on others...

carey you used base in your 125 build... i cant remember if huma-huma used it in his... no he used all the live rock that came with the tank... his sand was in question.

ok aa lay it on me...
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one more of the frame off we where setting it down onto the stand and one end just pulled up and off..when i tried easing the rest of it, it just popped. there is a chip in the inside top corner that started the the seal to pull away. the frame pulling off so easily would also explain why there was always a mineral build up on the outside of the tank when we put too much water in... we bought the tank used from craigslist...



yeah the garage is a mess... i tinker alot and on alot of different stuff. crazy thing is i hate clutter... couldnt tell from the pic though right?
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oh and i forgot to ask everyone if the wrought iron stand is going to be able to support the wieght of all the rock and sand and then the all of the sump.
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Live rock is where the BB lives (also somewhat in the sand somewhat.) I would go ahead and buy live rock you like and not worry on the price as much, I know it's
Expensive but you'll have the rock forever so get what you like! Shape wise not color color will change. Try aquatic connection or liveaquaria.
No fish in the tank while curing and the curing time changes on many factors temp, salinity, amount of water changes ect. Water changes will speed it up but don't do too large of water changes. Some people out ammonia/ or a raw
Shrimp in the water for the curing process. Personally I just clean the LR and put it in and let it cure.
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thats where our 55 gallon tank will come in handy. we where thinking we can collect all the lr or base rock and cycle it in there. what about the bb in the canister filters? is freshwater bb the same as saltwater?
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