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Old 11-03-2013, 12:35 AM   #11
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Tubestrea is one of my faves, that's the sun coral, you know your stuff. I'd need to check, I'm using my paper plan, it's a single sheet. The books are all noted, the fish list is a little vague, I can prepare a full list of potential items in Latin for you if would look at them please? I also like S. hystrix.
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Tubestrea is one of my faves, that's the sun coral, you know your stuff. I'd need to check, I'm using my paper plan, it's a single sheet. The books are all noted, the fish list is a little vague, I can prepare a full list of potential items in Latin for you if would look at them please? I also like S. hystrix.
Haha I'm not good with fish species in Latin but I'm not bad with corals. Tubastrea are very cool, I also like dendrophyllia. Both are non photosynthetic. I have S. hystrix and S. guttatus in my tank and they are not to difficult. What type of light are you looking into?
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I'm getting somewhere! I realise they have different care, I have to read it from a book as I don't yet own anything marine. I don't want any errors. I thought careful placement may have ironed out those issues, up and down in the tank, shadowed by rock etc.
I only have a few coral books as a guide.
Oh also careful placement works in most cases but corals can be picky and sometimes they will not be happy where you think they will and you have to move them. Most of the time they will let you know through polyp extension but not always.
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The brand new max spect razor 120w, I looked into DIY learned all about electronics found stockists for Cree led, a nifty 240v 2 channel light switch and meanwell power. Then somebody made that light. It's cheaper than I could build out of bits and ticks the boxes of my researched specs.
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Oh also careful placement works in most cases but corals can be picky and sometimes they will not be happy where you think they will and you have to move them. Most of the time they will let you know through polyp extension but not always.
These are things I've only read about. I have absolutely no experience on marine tanks, this is my first shot. I killed a few fish when I started, I don't want to kill any more!
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The plan. The corals are located whereabouts in the tank for light not size overall.
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Sweet that is an awesome light, I looked into their nano version when I setup my 20 but went with a kessil instead. You will have no problems keeping even the most light demanding corals under that. It's dimmable too so light acclimation will be easy.
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The plan. It has changed. The sump area will be all on one side, the return section will be added to the sump area.
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Corals do eat and excrete waste but it is in such minimal amounts compared to fish that it doesn't really count. The sun coral will probably create a little more waster than coral with zooxanthellae but they really only contribute more due to the fact that they require feedings and get no energy from light. I see no problem with those corals other than all of them have different care. Seriatopa hystrix will need high light high flow while the bubble is mod light and flow and the tubastrea is low light moderate flow. I have well over 20 species of corals in my 20 gallon and see no issues with any of my parameters.
I've read about various flow levels for different species, how do you class flow rate? Total system turnover? Just the main tank? With/without sump? I understand I should be aiming at (times per hour turnover) 10+ for main and 4ish for refugium. Plus wave makers etc! Which only all confuses me, then there is the light factor? Phew! With water hardness there is a graph and scale.
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I've read about various flow levels for different species, how do you class flow rate? Total system turnover? Just the main tank? With/without sump? I understand I should be aiming at (times per hour turnover) 10+ for main and 4ish for refugium. Plus wave makers etc! Which only all confuses me, then there is the light factor? Phew! With water hardness there is a graph and scale.
For flow in the main tank you will want anywhere from 20-40 times per hour the total display. Then you will have areas of lower flow where you can place the bubble. And you will have areas of higher intermittent flow where the seriatopa hystrix can go. Really you just want random patterns of flow in the main tank achieved through the return and powerheads. Light can be tricky. But once you find where a coral likes it light wise they usually are happy there.
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