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Old 03-16-2010, 09:57 PM   #11
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Pwc`s accomplish two things. 1) they replenish trace elements that are used up during coral and fish processes. 2) They help to dilute excessive nutrients that cause nuisance algea in the tank. Dont be one of those that say I`m not going to do PWC`s and just add trace elements to the tank. In the long run you`ll be sorry. JMO
I'm sorry if my posts have misled, but we do do regular water changes. We don't, however, do them once a week as up until today we've been under the impression that once a month was sufficient, although we have done them more frequently. To date, in the 2 months we've had the tank, we've done 3 water changes, so please don't get the impression that we're not doing that. We completely understand the importance of the practice.

However, my original question still stands- do we need a skimmer or not with a once a month water change schedule? And if so, is a Skilter the way to go or something else? We understand that we have a non-standard tank size, but so far what we have now is working just fine. And yes we now realize that the Sailfin is too big for the tank, but our LFS said it's fine for the next few months until we get a larger tank and he's doing quite well. Please keep in mind that he is maybe 1.5" long at most, so he's still a baby.

Thanks again for the replies folks, and thank you for the information. We just need a little useful guidance here.
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Old 03-16-2010, 10:21 PM   #12
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I too like the BakPak skimmer for that small tank. I've had a Skilter before and there's no comparison. CPR Bak-Pak Protein Skimmer

I think you'll more easily maintain that beautiful water with a skimmer removing dissolved organics and stuff. That's the mechanical side of the filtration. Then, the natural filtration will happen with the rock and the creatures on it you can't see. I think both skimmer and rock will work well for you with reef too.

Heck, even add 50% more rock if you can.
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I would do just the PWC's in the tank you have now and save your money for a top of the line skimmer for your larger tank.
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For that size tank you donr need a skimmer just do frequent PWC`s and it will be just as good.
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Old 03-16-2010, 11:05 PM   #15
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What size tank you movin up to? I think that skimmer can go up to 90g. I have run a much larger tank without a skimmer and just water changes too. Maybe its my imagination, but I think both is gooder. When I see the dirty gunk coming out of a skimmer, I'm feeling pretty good about using one.

But I agree. Skimmer not required.
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Old 03-17-2010, 09:04 AM   #17
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It all depends on what you want to do. If you want to stick with monthly changes, then I'd definitely say you need a Bak Pak skimmer, skilters don't work very well. If your willing to step up the water changes to once a week, then you can get away without getting the skimmer
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Thank you all very much for taking the time to help us out. Your answers have been very helpful.

We're going to go ahead and get the Bak Pak, and step up our water changes to twice a month now, or every other weekend, and from what we've gathered that should be sufficient.

We still have a few more things to work out like a current dead zone on one side of the tank, and suspected un-even heating, but beyond that we're pretty good to go.

Although we did lose our Blenny this morning, which was most definitely a bummer. This leads me to a related question- if one fish dies, but the rest of the stock is fine, is that indicative of a bad specimen or a larger problem? It seems like all of the fish we get from one particular store don't survive for very long, but the other animals and corals have all survived just fine. We're thinking the stock at the store might be questionable, but because we're still new to this we're just not sure.
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Could be the store uses a crappy distributor. Or the store doesn't take very good care of what they get. One of my friends got a yellow tang that was maybe an inch and a half long, but was so underfed that it wasn't fatter than 3 sheets of paper. Worked out good though, he got the fish for 3 bucks amd nirsed it back to health. That was 4 years ago and now he has a 7 inch long prize winning hog of a tang.

Anywho, If you are going to get a skimmer, like everyone said, get one to handle the larger tank you plan on getting.
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Sorry Mitch, i meant more gooder.
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