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Old 11-22-2012, 12:23 AM   #21
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So i was told i shouldnt run a filter on sw? I will get you the tank details when i go back home again.
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So i was told i shouldnt run a filter on sw? I will get you the tank details when i go back home again.
You can run a filter on SW. It can be hob or canister, it just needs to be rated for twice the size of the tank and cleaned well every week. Some people just use the LR and a skimmer, some use a sump and/or refugium, some a hob or canister. It's what you can fit and afford and maintain.
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Old 11-22-2012, 01:22 AM   #23
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Lr? So if i dont have a filter do i need to cycle it?

N my son has decided he wants to help with the whole process. So while i now have a 6 week wait to get it going gives me research time.

Thank you for answer my dumb questions really helps me lol
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Don't mix 2 different kinds of clown fish (nemos). They'll kill each other! Also, you're an amazing parent for doing that for your child
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:01 AM   #25
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Lr? So if i dont have a filter do i need to cycle it?

N my son has decided he wants to help with the whole process. So while i now have a 6 week wait to get it going gives me research time.

Thank you for answer my dumb questions really helps me lol
LR=live rock. You need to cycle your tank no matter what you use for filtration. The beneficial bacteria has to build up on the surfaces in your tank: ie the sand and rock. It takes 4-6 weeks usually to cycle, you can use either couple piece of raw shrimp or bottled ammonia, whichever you prefer.
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:17 PM   #26
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Don't mix 2 different kinds of clown fish (nemos). They'll kill each other! Also, you're an amazing parent for doing that for your child
mixing different clowns has been done with great results by alot of people, just need to follow the normal "different size" rule.
also id like to voice my opinion in that i dont think that adding the clew up crew first is a good idea. inverts are sensitive to level changes more so than fish. that being said id def add the clowns first because they are considered a damsel, so they are relatively tough.
also the biocubes come with builtin filtration, no need to look into other filtrations
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Ok thank you i was just wondering bc sum one told me there sud not b a filter on a salt water. Thats why i always ask if im unsure my self.
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Old 11-23-2012, 01:31 PM   #28
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Two things here:

First Filters.

The poop fish leave behind will eventually either break down into ammonia or get caught inthe filtration system. In that I include the protein skimmer and any filter you have. If you do have a filter it will capture the poop which will quickly degrade into ammonia and eventually nitrate. Hence the term nitrate factories. Sure, some will still be poop when you clean your filter, but some will have changed.
If you don't have a filter, the poop will liquefy as it goes into the skimmer and form those gross bubbles which become your skimmate. it has been removed from your system.
I only use the filter sock if I have disturbed the sand bed of if a water change has stirred things up too much.

Second setup.
Even tho your son wants to help with the whole process, I would still consider starting before hand. Otherwise he'll have to stare at an empty tank for 4-6 weeks while it cycles, and if he's like my 2 boys, he may not have the patience.
Here's what you may want to do instead. After you get the tank , take pictures of the sand available and some base and live rocks at your LFS. Let him pick out some rocks for you to buy. Then once you put the rocks, sand and water in the tank take pics of the landscape. I would intentionally make it kinda off. That way you 2 can discuss changes to be made. Hopefully you will be ready for the cuc as soon as he gets home.
During the cycle there is nothing to do. Really you don't even need to do water tests for a couple weeks. A simple nitrate test then and if you have trates test for trites. If/when the trates are high and trites are zero, ammonia should be zero as well ( test to confirm). A pwc and your done.
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I have thought a about starting it. But the whole picture thing is a great idea thank you. we just found out we have baby jacks. So my lfs said they`d take em n give us credit twds the live rock n so. So thats a help. Im maken a trip home tonight i think im gunna get it going tmw morning befor i head back down n ill send pics to my hubbys phone to show my son n he can pick his rock and sand. Such a great idea thanks
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Also was thinking about ding a 10g holding tank would that b good idea?
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