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Old 08-20-2017, 10:59 PM   #1
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Going saltwater for first time need help/build thread.

Ok as the title states I am starting a salt water tank and need help and opinions on what I need. I currently have a 45g freshwater and after doing some reading I bought a 40b after reading that it made a great beginner tank for saltwater. I have just about finished the stand so next up is equipment. I do plan on growing easy corals in the future so I want to buy accordingly. So here is what I have so far.
TANK: 40 Breeder
STAND: DIY Wood stand/canopy
What I need.
SKIMMER: looking at eshopps psk-75 hob or reef octopus classic 90 hob
FILTER: aquaclear 70 if needed
LIGHT: led only, looking at either single AI prime hd or hydra 26
POWER HEADS: looking at 2 hydor koralia 425 nano's
ROCK: I like the idea of a sterile start so I was thinking caribsea liferock. How long of a cycle am I looking at if I go this route
SAND: I have no idea here but I want something that is Gobi friendly.
That's all for now, I will get pics of stand build up soon.
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Old 08-20-2017, 11:12 PM   #2
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40 b is a great size to start out. Everything looks great - maybe a heater for equipment not listed. Have you considered a sump? The cycle will generally take 6- 8 weeks. For sand I love the carib sea arag alive or ocean direct for you- 40 lbs. good luck!
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Old 08-21-2017, 02:38 AM   #3
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Sorry I knew I would forget something. Heater will probably be a cobalt neo-therm or a simple eheim Jager depending on budget. I have looked at sumps but I just can't budget the extra cost. My local petco had the oceans direct in 2 grades original or oolite which would you recommend?
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Old 08-21-2017, 08:14 AM   #4
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Well I think either would be fine but perhaps do a little more research to be sure. I think its just different grain size, correct? It depends on what you want- sand sifters or sleepers (wrasses and gobies)? If so than you want to avoid the larger grain sizes.
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Did a little research and I think both will work. I think I will probably go with original. Any ideas on the two lights I listed and is the aquaclear worth having for a saltwater tank?
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You can grown anything you want under AIs. As for the aqua clear I would ditch it and spend the money towards the skimmer or powerheads.
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Get a raw shrimp and tie it into some old panty hose for easy clean up. A cycle lasts as long as it lasts, it can vary but around a month.
I like Caribsea sand myself, but some go the pool filter sand route.
You won't need the aqua clear with the skimmer. I had a psk75 on my old system. Nice skimmer.
I have two of the neotherm heaters in my tank. Keep things at a solid temp. Takes time to warm up though. There is a nice bulkreefsupply video on heaters on YouTube you can watch.
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Old 08-21-2017, 05:19 PM   #8
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Ok in that case I will go with the reef octopus skimmer and upgrade the nano 425s to the evolution 600s. I plan to use red sea coral pro salt and I am buying the BRS 6 stage ro/di system.What test kits do I need while the tank is FOWLR will the API master test kits do? Sorry for so many questions but I almost got everything handled.
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Sorry I didn't see your post sniperhank, so would you recommend the eshopps over the reef octopus? Both seem like they are good quality and I could save $30 with the psk75.
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API is just fine for fowlr. Would I recommend one over the other? No. My upgraded system runs a Reef octopus.
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