Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Saltwater and Reef > Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 05-07-2009, 11:04 AM   #1
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 13
Green cloudy water

Hey all.. Still new at salt water. My tank has pretty much just been cycling for about 4 months now with 3 damsels, 4 snails, 5 hermit crabs and about 40 lbs. live rock. I have a 75 g tank. I have been saving for my T5 lighting which I am getting this week and more live rock. Everything has been giong great, but I noticed my water getting very coudy. It has gotten worse and worse and when I look through my tank it is like a green cloud. I quickly did a 15% water change and it stil has not cleared up. All fish are doing fine, what is going on?!!? A guy at work told me salt water is diff. then freshwater in that you need to be on top of things or they go bad fast.

Blackmoss
__________________

__________________
BLACKMOSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2009, 12:26 PM   #2
SW 20 & Over Club
 
ccCapt's Avatar


 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Northeast PA
Posts: 5,362
Send a message via ICQ to ccCapt
Algae bloom. Have you done any tests on your water? Nitrate? Phosphate?
What kind of light is over the tank now? What color (K temp) bulb(s)?
What kind of water do you use? Tap water, RO/DI, well water?
What do you have for mechanical filtration, if any?
__________________

__________________
/Larry
125g reef
See My Tank Info
Check out The build project
ccCapt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2009, 01:18 PM   #3
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 13
Thanks for the reply ccCapt. The light I'm using now is the same flourescent lights I used for my freshwater tank.. just 40w 4ft flourescents. I only use water (Fresh & salt) that I purchase from the LFS. I have not tested the water since all I have is a ph test kit atm. I just take it to the fish store for weekly tests and everythign has been fine. I have a refugium system with a skimmer in the sump. The sump water looks pretty clear if that helps. How can I fix this?

Blackmoss
__________________
BLACKMOSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2009, 01:29 PM   #4
Thanx but no.....


 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,333
IMO the first step to fixing it is getting your own test kits, doing your own tests and knowing what the numbers are. Your LFS is predisposed to say your water is fine playing the odds that you'll start looking at the fish while they have you in the store. Not all distort the truth but..... You need to know what the numbers are for (at a minimum) ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, SG and PH. Also calcium, alk, phosphates amongst others.

Pretty good rule of thumb: If it's green it algae. If it's algae it's either your lighting, you are letting too much sunlight hit the tank, your nitrate and/phosphate are high (or a combination). Remember, your nitrates and phosphates may test low because your algae bloom is eating them. So your tank produces more and you get more fat algae. And the cycle continues.

You also need to understand what you water params are before and after you mix the salt or if buying premixed then what they are before they go in the tank to know if you are adding nitrates/etc with water changes.

You could cover the tank and kill it off but if your water is the cause then as soon as the light comes back.,.BANG.. algae.

Also, lights lose their effectiveness and can cause an algae outbreak as well.

Just some of the things that need to be kept on top of.

O the joy eh?
__________________
CaptainAhab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2009, 03:46 PM   #5
SW 20 & Over Club
 
ccCapt's Avatar


 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Northeast PA
Posts: 5,362
Send a message via ICQ to ccCapt
To add to Capt Ahab....I recommend you buy Salifert test kits. Start off with nitrate, pH and alkalinity. Later on you may want to get phosphate, calcium and magnesium kits too. You will probably have to get them online, and they do cost a little more, but they are accurate and easy to use.
How do you check the salinity (specific gravity) of your water? If you don't have 1, invest in a refractometer.
If you are buying premade saltwater from your LFS, test their water. In the long run, it will be cheaper to buy a RO unit and make your own saltwater.
Your bulbs are probably not helping, but they alone won't cause an algae bloom. You will have to make a change in the future.
For now, to get the algae bloom under control, I suggest you start doing lots of water changes. It won't hurt to do a 20% change every 3-4 days. It's alot of work, but nothing comes easy.
__________________
/Larry
125g reef
See My Tank Info
Check out The build project
ccCapt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2009, 05:56 PM   #6
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 13
Thanks again for the replies. I still am not sure what I got myself into here with the salt water, but I am ready to take on the challenge just because of the beauty of the tank. I barely have anything in the tank, as mentioned above, but I can easily stare at it for 15-30 min. just watching everything move around.

I was expecting something like, " put this chemical in here and it will fix it", like the LFS said when they sold me a ph buffer cause mine was a lil low. I have yet to hear anything here about any chemicals, so I will do the water changes every week and go out and get me a good test kit. It just suks to not be able to see through the tank.... hope I dont have any company coming over this mother's day weekend!

Blackmoss.
__________________
BLACKMOSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2009, 06:09 PM   #7
SW REEF 18+ YEARS
Community Admin
 
melosu58's Avatar



Tank of the Month Award
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Virginia
Posts: 38,242
Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACKMOSS View Post
I was expecting something like, " put this chemical in here and it will fix it", like the LFS said when they sold me a ph buffer cause mine was a lil low. I have yet to hear anything here about any chemicals,

You wont hear too many people on this site recommend chemicals. Chemicals are a band aid solution. You need to find the fuel source to the algea bloom and eliminate it. Your LFS is trying to make a sale. We are not trying to sell you anything. Just offering good advice and you`ve got some too. As mentioned above PWC`s and water test results.
__________________

SITE ADMINISTRATOR

You can view many of my fish and corals in my photo albums in my profile.

View my tank


AA Community Rules|AA TOS

Forums 101 - posting, accounts, basics
melosu58 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2009, 06:09 PM   #8
Thanx but no.....


 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,333
If someones first response is chemicals. RUN AWAY Last I saw nature is not dosing chemicals and in general you don't need to either without a test result that shows you need to..... PERIOD
__________________
CaptainAhab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2009, 10:27 AM   #9
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 13
Thanks again for all replies. I think I was guilty of leaving my light on all the time. I really never shut it off. After reading more, I have the lights on a time schedule now for both upper and lower sump tanks. I did shut off the light for 4 days and I notice the bloom is almost completely gone. Also did a water change of 20%. Boy have I got a lot to learn!


Blackmoss
__________________
BLACKMOSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-14-2009, 10:39 AM   #10
Aquarium Advice FINatic
 
divedeep1689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: phenix city alabama
Posts: 1,061
Send a message via AIM to divedeep1689
from expereice chemicals just fix it temp then its right back on you ya have to find the source of any problem before you can ever beat it.
__________________

__________________
special thanks to melosu58 , roka , thincat,CaptainAhab (and many more who i will list later as i find thier names so i can spell them lol ) for i would not have the tank or the knowledge i have about my tank if not for them.
divedeep1689 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
cloud, cloudy, cloudy water

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Green Cloudy Water Grumpy62 Freshwater & Brackish - Unhealthy Fish 3 01-19-2008 02:33 PM
Green Cloudy Water razzle67 Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion 4 07-18-2006 12:42 PM
Cloudy Green Water robocop Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion 2 07-17-2006 02:10 PM
Cloudy Green Water Help. current516 Freshwater & Brackish - General Discussion 43 02-10-2006 04:07 PM
green cloudy water. ericosuave Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started 10 01-28-2004 09:38 PM







» Photo Contest Winners








Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.