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Old 03-04-2011, 12:30 AM   #11
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i don't think you need the bio balls any more. i would remove the filter pads and bio balls and continue to do water changes. the sock isn't necessary, but it's not harmful.
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ill add 1 just to pick up larger things in the water there only 8 bucks at my LFS. So after i add the skimmer my nitrates will start to lower? My LFS also told me to use instant oceans natural nitrate reducer but i haven't heard anything about this product so i didn't buy it.
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it seems to be brand new. you can do the same thing with vodka, the problem is, the nitrates will creep back up if you don't remove the source. i use vodka in the tank i maintain at the local health club, but only because i can't be there every second to watch who is feeding and what they are feeding. i wouldn't need it if it was my home system.

just make sure you rinse out that filter sock regularly also. when i was using filter socks (8" ones) i had to change them out about every 3 days.
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Old 03-04-2011, 10:15 AM   #14
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Here's what you do. I had this issue before. SAME thing
What Cna I Use to Absorb Nitrates?

Your nitrates may actually be greater than 80 ppm. I conducted a dillutional linearity test where you take multiple samples and dillute them with top off water...fresh RO. You take your test sample and split it between two tubes to make a 50% tank/50% RO sample for testing. Split again and you have 25/75 and so on. do the calc and you have your reading. Once an API kit gets to 80ppm it gets unreliable.

Ultimately, what worked was doing big water changes every few days. If you can do 40-50% it will speed things up. 10% PWC's just take longer.

It will come down, it has to. But like other say, think about what's contributing.
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Old 03-04-2011, 05:10 PM   #15
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ill do a 50 percent water change tomorrow.
Idk what the source would be.He has had it fishless for a good 4 months and when i transported it i didn't move the sand bed at all i let it be. but i did take out the LR 1 by 1.I did everything very delicatly so i wouldn't disrupt anything.
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I did the dillutional linearity test
50/50 = 80ppm
25/75 = 40ppm
12.5/87.5 = 20ppm
0/100 = 0-0.5ppm

im having a hard time calculating how high my nitrates actually are
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If 80 ppm is what you got on the 50/50 dilution, then you multiply by 2 and get 160ppm. For the 25/75, multiply by 4 and so on.

Keep changing water every 1-2 days and it will come down.
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well i got my protein skimmer last night and its breaking in as we speak

would it help to clean up my live sand a little bit?
i cleaned out my sump last night as i did the water change
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since i don't have fish or inverts would i be able to do a 100 percent water change to drop it down to 0ppm?
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Do a 75% Change. I'm just hesitant to signoff on 100%, though I don't know what harm it would do....except to the critters in the live sand. Yeah, 75-80%.

You may not have anything adding to the nitrate production, it may have just been there because he wasn't changing water regularly.

The P/S will help remove nutrients, but if you're not feeding, then you should have any.

Speaking of which, you have to maintain the bacteria population. Are you adding an ammonia source?
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