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Old 03-23-2006, 09:55 AM   #11
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Please correct me if I'm wrong but I would've thought phosphate would be coming from water source or overfeeding... not overstocking. High ammonia, nitrates, etc would be from overstocking.
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Old 03-23-2006, 10:33 AM   #12
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Well, you could argue that overstocking can lead to more food in the tank and then more phos... but I agree that it's more than likely your water source. That's a pretty burly initial phos reading. Even my tap water (which I don't use) has less phos than that.
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Old 03-23-2006, 10:46 AM   #13
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What size tank do you have, what livestock do you have, how much/often do you feed? Sounds like overfeeding may be a big part of the issue, along with phosphate from your lfs water. Do you have a fuge?
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Old 03-23-2006, 09:25 PM   #14
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Old 03-23-2006, 09:52 PM   #15
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I agree. Water source and overfeeding are the main reasons for PO4 not overstocking.
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Old 03-23-2006, 09:58 PM   #16
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Do you have a fuge?
I have two 10gal. tanks. no fuge.

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Edit 8AM Friday: Just in case anyone's wondering... I found a solution to my phosphate problem - literally overnight!
Last night I went to the LFS to find kalkwasser but all I could find was Phos-guard, so I bought it to give it a try. I put the wc water in a bucket with this corner filter and let it churn overnight. Retested the water moments ago and voila! no phosphate reading! Yay! Now I'll just do this with the water each time until either the Phos-guard is gone or I can afford a RO/DI unit.
In the filter you can see carbon, I know I didn't need it, but I already had that in there with the intention of using it in my 2nd tank. You can see a layer of phos-guard sandwiched between the cotton.

Your thoughts on this are more than welcome.
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Old 03-24-2006, 10:52 AM   #17
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this is a good product, I have used it as well. But make sure you test your alkalinity while using it because it will drop it like a stone! You will more than likely need to buffer your water. Also, keep in mind that this product is a band-aid--your source water is really the solution to your problem and possibly overfeeding. HTH
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Glad it was able to get your po4 down. You can use it safely in the main tank as well. Just make sure you rinse the dust out in ro/di water prior to putting in filter. The lfs probably hasn’t changed their di filters in quite a while which is why you get a po4 reading on the new water. I’d either find another lfs or buy your own unit since it’s cheaper in the long run.

A lot of people get them from ebay for around $100. Below are the 3 most popular sites:
Filter-Direct-store (seems to be most popular on this site)
The-Aqua-Safe-Pure-Water-Shop
ROfilterDepot

Also airwaterice.com is a good place if you don’t want to deal with ebay.

PhosGuard is an excellent product but I’ve never had to correct a po4 reading in the main tank greater then .02 which it did in about 3 days. I do use buffers when using as well. It doesn’t leach po4 back in once exhausted either and will turn brown as its working. Makes the water sparkling clear also and if you are using in conjunction with GAC personally I would use 100% PhosGuard until you get your po4 under control.
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